Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-24-2015, 05:50 PM
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05-24-2015, 05:51 PM
FlySmarterNotHarder
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Is surrender a strategy?
Worked for the French.
If not now,.never.
What would Richard do?
He is one of the most skilled negotiators we have ever seen. The same surrender monkeys on this forum brag about how cheaply we get our aircraft as Richard plays Boeing against Airbus.
Let me promise you if Richard was MEC chairman we would get 25% plus 1/1/16 without touching PS. As well as the rest of the gains we deserve.
Why the worshipers can't immulate him is beyond me.
Worked for the French.
If not now,.never.
What would Richard do?
He is one of the most skilled negotiators we have ever seen. The same surrender monkeys on this forum brag about how cheaply we get our aircraft as Richard plays Boeing against Airbus.
Let me promise you if Richard was MEC chairman we would get 25% plus 1/1/16 without touching PS. As well as the rest of the gains we deserve.
Why the worshipers can't immulate him is beyond me.
Oh come on. Being reasonable in your expectations is not the same as surrendering and you know it.
Well, believe it or not, when you are a senior captain making over $300k per year as an hourly employee, pay raises are not necessarily your only focus. Non taxable income, tax advantaged income, and benefits such as vacation and medical insurance become more important than "25% plus 1/1/16". As the majority of pilots approach retirement I hope our contracts will reflect those priorities.
05-24-2015, 05:53 PM
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05-24-2015, 06:02 PM
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But F1 racing was on and then NASCAR hung a left all night.
And being this is an anonymous board I feel as if I can be rather open about one thing... cheering for Cleveland. I mean I like the Hawks and everything about them this year and what they accomplished. And I've only seen 1 game. But I followed them on the news. I'd love for them to win, but it's Atlanta, Atlanta rarely wins anything. Cleveland never wins anything.
Love the Hawks, but go cavs.
05-24-2015, 06:07 PM
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Oh come on. Being reasonable in your expectations is not the same as surrendering and you know it.
Well, believe it or not, when you are a senior captain making over $300k per year as an hourly employee, pay raises are not necessarily your only focus. Non taxable income, tax advantaged income, and benefits such as vacation and medical insurance become more important than "25% plus 1/1/16". As the majority of pilots approach retirement I hope our contracts will reflect those priorities.
Well, believe it or not, when you are a senior captain making over $300k per year as an hourly employee, pay raises are not necessarily your only focus. Non taxable income, tax advantaged income, and benefits such as vacation and medical insurance become more important than "25% plus 1/1/16". As the majority of pilots approach retirement I hope our contracts will reflect those priorities.
I believe we can and should have both the hourly rates and things you describe.
Our execs over our careers have outpaced our gains year after year. They are pround of what they bring to the party. What happened to us?
We are begging and making concessions to attain hourly rates that are 11 years old with no inflation.
Our medical benefits are an insulting joke.
This is our time and another single with an error is not acceptable.
I'm hoping for the best.
05-24-2015, 06:07 PM
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Oh come on. Being reasonable in your expectations is not the same as surrendering and you know it.
Well, believe it or not, when you are a senior captain making over $300k per year as an hourly employee, pay raises are not necessarily your only focus. Non taxable income, tax advantaged income, and benefits such as vacation and medical insurance become more important than "25% plus 1/1/16". As the majority of pilots approach retirement I hope our contracts will reflect those priorities.
Well, believe it or not, when you are a senior captain making over $300k per year as an hourly employee, pay raises are not necessarily your only focus. Non taxable income, tax advantaged income, and benefits such as vacation and medical insurance become more important than "25% plus 1/1/16". As the majority of pilots approach retirement I hope our contracts will reflect those priorities.
As a matter of fact, now, based on that statement I'm not even sure you work here. Not that it actually pertains to the subject.
05-24-2015, 06:11 PM
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05-24-2015, 06:29 PM
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No, I made $278k. But if I made that on our lowest paying equipment Im sure our more senior captains made $300k or better.
My point is that we have a very senior pilot group with the majority approaching retirement age. That is going to flavor the next couple of contracts. And pay % may not be at the top of everyones wish list. And I doubt those approaching retirement are going to want to drag out negotiations for many years entertaining unreasonable contract demands from the just say NO crowd.
So yes, the time value of money is more important the older you are I would say.
05-24-2015, 06:38 PM
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You mean the Auburn girls? Can't blame you. Even the... softball ones... can be hot.
But F1 racing was on and then NASCAR hung a left all night.
And being this is an anonymous board I feel as if I can be rather open about one thing... cheering for Cleveland. I mean I like the Hawks and everything about them this year and what they accomplished. And I've only seen 1 game. But I followed them on the news. I'd love for them to win, but it's Atlanta, Atlanta rarely wins anything. Cleveland never wins anything.
Love the Hawks, but go cavs.
But F1 racing was on and then NASCAR hung a left all night.
And being this is an anonymous board I feel as if I can be rather open about one thing... cheering for Cleveland. I mean I like the Hawks and everything about them this year and what they accomplished. And I've only seen 1 game. But I followed them on the news. I'd love for them to win, but it's Atlanta, Atlanta rarely wins anything. Cleveland never wins anything.
Love the Hawks, but go cavs.
The 500 would have been way better if Will Powers had won, did you see what his wife did to that plastic bottle she was chewing on?
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05-24-2015, 06:39 PM
Straight QOL, homie
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And it's stunning how fast ALPA went from promising an "historic" contract to dispatching messengers here to tell us that if we vote down a crappy TA, we have "unreasonable contract demands."
I'm happy to wind the clock and cash profit sharing checks until RA figures it out. I'd wager many of "those approaching retirement" will be just fine doing the same.
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