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You won't be disappointed. He has access to stones not available in the US market.
That's not how it works. No arbitrator can "give" us anything if we don't agree to it. The worst they can do it park us. I'd rather be parked than eat a scope/sick leave/work rule sandwich to get a partially paid for raise with a potential loss in PS.
I'd prefer a coplete gain in every section TA with no givebacks, but if we have to be thrown into the briar patch and wait them out, so be it.
I'd prefer a coplete gain in every section TA with no givebacks, but if we have to be thrown into the briar patch and wait them out, so be it.
But Im not Babe Ruth like you are. Except you don't seem to realize that you don't have a stick to swing with.
Look around. Nobody gets to strike anymore. PEB is what you can expect. Threat of labor unrest? Inflatable rat? Puhleez.
We have an opportunity to make solid gains if we are realistic. Fortunately the majority of Delta pilots are sensible about these things, because the majority have been around long enough to see many, many, contract negotiations.
I'm not interested in holding my breath until I turn blue. That didn't work when I was 0-5, and it won't work when I'm 5-0.
He is the brother of one of my Air Force buds, and he does great work. He is in Clinton, NJ but will ship anywhere. He does custom jewelry and has a nice line of aviator wing bracelets, necklaces, etc if that is something any of you are interested in.
Oh, you said 20th anniversary. Get her a scag turf tiger. Nothing says I love you like a turf tiger.
"Just say NO until I get what I want is not a strategy". Not a wise or mature one anyway. You young guys can wait all you want, but with over half the seniority list over age 50 I doubt that will be very popular. You were at least right when you said the worst they can do is park us. Don't want that. Ill take a reasonable contract sooner rather than waste year after year swinging for the fences.
But Im not Babe Ruth like you are. Except you don't seem to realize that you don't have a stick to swing with.
Look around. Nobody gets to strike anymore. PEB is what you can expect. Threat of labor unrest? Inflatable rat? Puhleez.
We have an opportunity to make solid gains if we are realistic. Fortunately the majority of Delta pilots are sensible about these things, because the majority have been around long enough to see many, many, contract negotiations.
I'm not interested in holding my breath until I turn blue. That didn't work when I was 0-5, and it won't work when I'm 5-0.
But Im not Babe Ruth like you are. Except you don't seem to realize that you don't have a stick to swing with.
Look around. Nobody gets to strike anymore. PEB is what you can expect. Threat of labor unrest? Inflatable rat? Puhleez.
We have an opportunity to make solid gains if we are realistic. Fortunately the majority of Delta pilots are sensible about these things, because the majority have been around long enough to see many, many, contract negotiations.
I'm not interested in holding my breath until I turn blue. That didn't work when I was 0-5, and it won't work when I'm 5-0.
A one time no vote would probably be the healthiest thing that could happen for the entire ALPA/pilot group/MGT relationship.
"Just say NO until I get what I want is not a strategy". Not a wise or mature one anyway. You young guys can wait all you want, but with over half the seniority list over age 50 I doubt that will be very popular. You were at least right when you said the worst they can do is park us. Don't want that. Ill take a reasonable contract sooner rather than waste year after year swinging for the fences.
Describes you aptly. That's coming from someone from the 50 and older demographic that you characterize according to your own personal perceptions of yourself. It's extremely arrogant to believe that everyone else subscribes to your beliefs.
Now that we have established that:
Saying NO to a substandard TENTATIVE agreement is not only a strategy but a necessity. It's not holding ones breath and stomping their feet in a tantrum until they get what they want.
It's business and just that.
If it doesn't meet OUR collective needs, it needs to be sent back with direction and clear information as to why and how it needs to be modified.
Afraid of getting "parked" !?!
Ignorant statement at best, more a proclamation designed to fan the flames of FUD, especially with the exaggerative description wasting "year after year swinging for the fences."
Who exactly are you so terrified of getting parked by? Again, tell us when the amendable date of the current contract is?
First, your perceptions about PEBs are wrong. They don't preclude a strike at all. 100% wrong.
Furthermore, a strike isn't the leverage that works in a situation like this anyway. However, then again you know that. Perhaps if you don't, be rest as sutured that 98 percent of the pilots at Delta do know that.
Finally, where you have completely come off the rails is your idea of reasonable.
Another 4-8-3-3 quick TVM cram down is NOT reasonable in this revenue and profit environment. Particularly when it's coupled with the glaring fact that our BK concessions have not been restored after a whole decade.
Solid gains are what the pilots reasonably want as indicated by our survey responses. It IS realistic to achieve them, quite notably now that Delta has determined that they have enough free cash flow to reward the share holders and the share holding management folks with $ 6 billion dollars in share buy backs and dividends.
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