Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-16-2015, 08:46 AM
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05-16-2015, 09:00 AM
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Not sure about only, but you can find the updated pay tables if you log in and click Contract Language. On the right hand side there is a button for Pay Tables that include the .5% bump we got from 3.B.4
05-16-2015, 09:20 AM
Otto
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Quick B6 JS question -- I'm using them as a backup to get home tonight, should I list for their JS now or wait until I miss my primary commute home?
Not sure if they are Delta-esque and don't care if I don't show, or UPS-style where they'll hold a grudge if I don't show. If I make my primary flight I probably won't have time to cancel my listing before I have to turn my phone off since the connection is very tight. The flip side is I don't know if there is a latest time where I can try to list for the B6 JS -- by the time I miss my primary commute I'll be within a couple hours of the B6 departure time.
Thanks!
Not sure if they are Delta-esque and don't care if I don't show, or UPS-style where they'll hold a grudge if I don't show. If I make my primary flight I probably won't have time to cancel my listing before I have to turn my phone off since the connection is very tight. The flip side is I don't know if there is a latest time where I can try to list for the B6 JS -- by the time I miss my primary commute I'll be within a couple hours of the B6 departure time.
Thanks!
05-16-2015, 10:42 AM
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Quick B6 JS question -- I'm using them as a backup to get home tonight, should I list for their JS now or wait until I miss my primary commute home?
Not sure if they are Delta-esque and don't care if I don't show, or UPS-style where they'll hold a grudge if I don't show. If I make my primary flight I probably won't have time to cancel my listing before I have to turn my phone off since the connection is very tight. The flip side is I don't know if there is a latest time where I can try to list for the B6 JS -- by the time I miss my primary commute I'll be within a couple hours of the B6 departure time.
Thanks!
Not sure if they are Delta-esque and don't care if I don't show, or UPS-style where they'll hold a grudge if I don't show. If I make my primary flight I probably won't have time to cancel my listing before I have to turn my phone off since the connection is very tight. The flip side is I don't know if there is a latest time where I can try to list for the B6 JS -- by the time I miss my primary commute I'll be within a couple hours of the B6 departure time.
Thanks!
05-16-2015, 12:31 PM
Da Hudge
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Or perhaps it was because the NWA rates were lower then the Delta rates to start with. To have brought the rates above the Delta rates would have resulted in all the funding that was available going to NW pilots only. As it was the NW side received higher pay raises then the Delta side. Had the NW side received all of the money the joint contract would have not been ratified. The NWA reps fully understood this. The compromise was bigger raises for the North with equipment banded in pay. All and all a reasonable and smart approach.
05-16-2015, 01:21 PM
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05-16-2015, 07:14 PM
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Here's the scope update from NYC tonight.
"Scope Compliance and Analysis
Delta currently operates 784 mainline aircraft. SkyTeam consists of 20 member airlines. In 2012, Delta Connection operated 348 50-seat jets; in 2015, Delta Connection operates 179 50-seat jets. There has been a 27 percent reduction in Delta passengers on ALK since the last quarterly report."
So we would hope DALPA is concerned about all areas of our scope. Let's see...
Skyteam / JV: Check (although neither of those numbers really mean much)
Alaska: Check (although we have AS mgt to thank for that gift - ALPA had nothing to do with it)
50 Seaters: Check
It seems like there's one little section of scope that was left out. Not sure they would be so malevolent as to do it on purpose, unless we are about to see a TA with MORE concessions in this area. Some hints:
- It's a certain aircraft size bigger than 50-seaters and smaller than Alaska
- We traded some doomed-to-fail 50-seaters for them in 2012
- The manufacturers start with C and E
Anyone? DALPA?
"Scope Compliance and Analysis
Delta currently operates 784 mainline aircraft. SkyTeam consists of 20 member airlines. In 2012, Delta Connection operated 348 50-seat jets; in 2015, Delta Connection operates 179 50-seat jets. There has been a 27 percent reduction in Delta passengers on ALK since the last quarterly report."
So we would hope DALPA is concerned about all areas of our scope. Let's see...
Skyteam / JV: Check (although neither of those numbers really mean much)
Alaska: Check (although we have AS mgt to thank for that gift - ALPA had nothing to do with it)
50 Seaters: Check
It seems like there's one little section of scope that was left out. Not sure they would be so malevolent as to do it on purpose, unless we are about to see a TA with MORE concessions in this area. Some hints:
- It's a certain aircraft size bigger than 50-seaters and smaller than Alaska
- We traded some doomed-to-fail 50-seaters for them in 2012
- The manufacturers start with C and E
Anyone? DALPA?
05-16-2015, 09:23 PM
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05-17-2015, 01:54 AM
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Not only will these guys be selling more 76 seat jets for DCI, they will tell us more JV is also a win.
Don't forget reducing profit sharing is a win. Disregarding their own survey was a must. They know more than we do. Like Council 16 says, we must surrender early and often.
05-17-2015, 06:46 AM
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I could say without the deal we would have hired 0 and then we both are making up numbers we know nothing about. At least I admit what I don't know. We can all create hypotheticals but the reality is Delta pilot jobs increased since 2012 when almost all the APC crowd predicted we would shrink and lose mainline jobs. You were wrong about that. But now you are for sure right with your made up numbers.
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