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Old 04-29-2015, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
Call me old fashioned, but something like that would give me the twitches. Can that happen to approach plates?
Well im not sure but I do know that this didn't cause any deaths.


but CNN is standing by in case things change.

unless all of the Iraq and Afghanistan veterans start to loot again in Baltimore then they will cover that.


unless the white house correspondents dinner is going on again then they will trump all for that.




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Old 04-29-2015, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I am so clueless that everything I said about contract 2012 has come to pass. Everything you said? Well at least it's good we did not have the massive furloughs you assured us were coming....

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Sometimes I wonder what planet your actually on Carl. The Forum was not screaming job loss? GMAFB
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I think people were screaming that were would require less pilots because of certain provisions/concessions. (Ie., Higher ALV's, reserve cap, etc.) ALPA even came out with a memo that said so, didn't they?

I don't remember anyone on here screaming furloughs. If there was, it was just a few.
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Old 04-29-2015, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Sailing,

I think people were screaming that were would require less pilots because of certain provisions/concessions. (Ie., Higher ALV's, reserve cap, etc.) ALPA even came out with a memo that said so, didn't they?

I don't remember anyone on here screaming furloughs. If there was, it was just a few.
Yeah I don't recall furlough talk either, but we were reducing pilots required.
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Old 04-29-2015, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Are you this shallow? You are why the DPA had a good run. You should be ashamed.
Ashamed of what? You said

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Good luck! I'm loving it... I really think there is a bright future ahead for us in widgetland!
If, you're loving it, I just assumed you were appreciative of those that worked on your behalf to make it so. I guess not.
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Old 04-29-2015, 07:38 AM
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daily Call to Action reminder..takes just a few seconds of our time. I was on the jumpseat with an ALPA rep the other day and only 3000ish people have sent one. Easy to do.
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Old 04-29-2015, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Well im not sure but I do know that this didn't cause any deaths.


but CNN is standing by in case things change.

unless all of the Iraq and Afghanistan veterans start to loot again in Baltimore then they will cover that.


unless the white house correspondents dinner is going on again then they will trump all for that.





Dude, you need to be anchoring a desk on some network.

Pretty much nailed it!
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Old 04-29-2015, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Sailing,

I think people were screaming that were would require less pilots because of certain provisions/concessions. (Ie., Higher ALV's, reserve cap, etc.) ALPA even came out with a memo that said so, didn't they?

I don't remember anyone on here screaming furloughs. If there was, it was just a few.
ALPA did come out and explain exactly what the job loss worst case would be. Their number was a net number looking at the various trade offs. In the areas where we gave up jobs we asked and got offsets in other areas. The net effect was a loss of about 150 jobs system wide. The forum claimed the number was far in excess of that. Block hours compared to headcount show that number to be accurate if not a little pessimistic. Crew planning made no changes in manning assumptions.
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Old 04-29-2015, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
ALPA did come out and explain exactly what the job loss worst case would be. Their number was a net number looking at the various trade offs. In the areas where we gave up jobs we asked and got offsets in other areas. The net effect was a loss of about 150 jobs system wide. The forum claimed the number was far in excess of that. Block hours compared to headcount show that number to be accurate if not a little pessimistic. Crew planning made no changes in manning assumptions.
Why have a trade off on work rules to begin with? Especially with productivity? AND to such a level that Ed claimed it was a way to pay for C2012?
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Old 04-29-2015, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Hmmm.... if it looks like a Duck, walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck...

I wonder what it tastes like!
I not sure but I'm willing to give it a taste!!
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
Ashamed of what? You said



If, you're loving it, I just assumed you were appreciative of those that worked on your behalf to make it so. I guess not.
Cannot stop laughing.

You quoted 80... from 2007.
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