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Old 04-28-2015, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Pmfji, APC was screaming scope cave, 4 8 3 3, the 717s were coming anyway. I don't think job loss was the issue.
Yep. This.

No one was saying furloughs were going to come as a result of it. That's only in sailing's head. There was consternation over the stuff that costed jobs (bid period realignment and so on), but not one person ever said what he has repeated over and over (unless he counts himself).
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Old 04-28-2015, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Reliable source:

1) The Company wants a deal by the summer.
2) Pay-banding is not on the table.
3) "Monetizing," PS is.
4) The Company wants to go after sick-leave abuse (and as usual the "abuse" is due to 2% of the pilot group.)
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Oh, and expect AA pay rates
How do we get AA pay rates with out Pay-banding? AA's Group 4 will pay CA $293/HR & FO $200/HR on 1/2016. That rate includes 777, 764, 787, 330, 350.

AA has 60 777s, 3 787s (w/ 38 more coming), and 21 330s... THAT'S 123 compared to DELTA's 18 777s.

Group 1 = 190. Group 2=md80/320/737. Group 3=75/76. Group 4 = 330/350 787/777 Group 5= 747/380
AA PAY RATES HEREAttachment 2043
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Old 04-28-2015, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I'm loving it... I really think there is a bright future ahead for us in widgetland!
You must have a good contract. I'm sure you appreciate the work done on your behalf.😱
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
You must have a good contract. I'm sure you appreciate the work done on your behalf.😱
Come on man. He calls out Sailing for fabricated straw men, and you paint him as an ingrate?? Do you wonder why guys don't feel like their union is on THEIR side? It's stuff like this.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
You must have a good contract. I'm sure you appreciate the work done on your behalf.��
Are you this shallow? You are why the DPA had a good run. You should be ashamed.
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Maybe he put up some epic Duck cheerleader pics he was holding onto for a while and ended up getting permanently banned.

Just sayin.


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Old 04-29-2015, 04:12 AM
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Ipad Pilot App Bug Grounds A Few Dozen American Airlines flights
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Old 04-29-2015, 04:22 AM
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Call me old fashioned, but something like that would give me the twitches. Can that happen to approach plates?
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Old 04-29-2015, 04:24 AM
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Thinking if it was a fatal flaw all of the ipads would have had the same issue, not just a few...possibly a download issue from the company.
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Old 04-29-2015, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
Call me old fashioned, but something like that would give me the twitches. Can that happen to approach plates?
Other than spilling coffee on them, I guess not.

In the big scheme of things, you still have an FMS (same could happen to it I guess) and radios that can be used to relay info needed to successfully shoot an approach.

That being said, if I were going into some sort of "special" aiport I would pick a more suitable divert.
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