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04-28-2015, 09:45 AM

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BenderRodriguez

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Interesting read.

04-28-2015, 10:03 AM

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iaflyer

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Trans States and Skywest both have the MRJ set for deliveries in the next 24 months. Our scope clause prohibits these aircraft outside of mainline. This article says that negotiations are underway right now. Funny, but I've not heard anything about it from our CBA...

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Originally Posted by scambo1

There was nothing in my contract survey about those.

If section 1 ever came back in the TA with those permitted, what possible reason would I have to even consider blaming ALPA?

"We relaxed scope on the MRJ since no one said they were against it."

Sound familiar? CDOs anyone?

That's a big gripe I have with ALPA - they don't have to give me the specifics, but when a LOA or something is being discussed, how hard would it be to shoot out an email saying, "The following topics are being discussed with the company:

CDO
110+ seat scope
Crew meals
etc...

If you have an opinion on these topics, one way or another, please contact your reps.."

That way they would get some input. The only reason the CDO thing wasn't passed is the pilots found out - Those dastardly pilots!

04-28-2015, 10:08 AM

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sailingfun

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Originally Posted by iaflyer

The whole CDO thing came up however because a significant number of pilots were lobbying their reps to allow them. They flew them at a prior airline and wanted them back.

04-28-2015, 10:40 AM

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Timbo

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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr

FTB and Timbo, I'm supposed to cut the grass today!!!

That grass will still be there tomorrow!

(That's what I tell my wife).

Now... what you could do is...cut the grass with that Highlander.

Two birds, one stone!

04-28-2015, 10:58 AM

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BenderRodriguez

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

The whole CDO thing came up however because a significant number of pilots were lobbying their reps to allow them. They flew them at a prior airline and wanted them back.

Define significant. I have yet to meet anyone that wanted those god awful things. Besides, a change that would affect QOL to THAT degree needed to go to the membership. I agree with the flamers here. The way this was broached was completely unacceptable.

I HATE all nighters and I am too old to do those CDOs and be anything resembling safe. And contrary to popular belief, more money doesn't make all things safer.

04-28-2015, 11:05 AM

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CheapTrick

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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez

I will agree with Purple when he is correct (which is seldom), but....... Bender sure sounds exactly like that guy from Knoxville with the cheerleader pics.

04-28-2015, 11:17 AM

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Sink r8

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I don't like to speculate on anyone's identity, since this is an anonymous board, but I wouldn't bet against you or PD on this.

04-28-2015, 11:21 AM

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Justdoinmyjob

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Originally Posted by Timbo

I usually have to get up and pee at about 3:45.

You might wanna go see a doctor if you have to go that frequently!

04-28-2015, 11:40 AM

#181539

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez

I hate the idea also but several on even here posted they liked flying them. One base passed a LEC resolution to bring them back. I realize it takes only a handful of pilots to do that but the squeaky will gets the grease. I hate domestic all nighters also and they seem worse from a safety standpoint then a CDO.

04-28-2015, 12:04 PM

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iaflyer

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

The whole CDO thing came up however because a significant number of pilots were lobbying their reps to allow them. They flew them at a prior airline and wanted them back.

If so, then why when a large cry went up the MEC backtracked and had them removed at the last minute? You would think that if there were lots of pilots asking for it, the MEC would of said that. They didn't, if I remember correctly.

The council 20 reps (which I believe is what LEC resolution you are referring to) said this. I don't see anything along the lines of, "lots of pilots were asking for them"

"After significant debate, the negotiators were tasked to meet with the company to discuss proposed modifications to the tentative agreement, including the removal of Split Duty Periods (SDP).

Incidentally, contrary to a new “urban legend”, the SDPs were not a result of Council 20 reps lobbying for them. We have had significant reservations regarding the concept of Split Duty Periods (SDPs / Continuous Duty Overnights - CDOs), and this was reinforced by the input from Council 20 pilots.

Modifications were made to the tentative agreement (in record time!), removing Split Duty Periods entirely, along with changes to the long call 'leash', and the Company and Negotiators agreed to this new, amended TA."