Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-12-2015, 06:57 PM
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Ooohhh, Deb. She can 69 I mean 709 ride anytime.
Regarding GA go for a used Mooney or maybe a Cirrus. A lot slicker / faster of a plane than the PA28, and there are a lot of them availble.
Regarding GA go for a used Mooney or maybe a Cirrus. A lot slicker / faster of a plane than the PA28, and there are a lot of them availble.
04-12-2015, 07:14 PM
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04-12-2015, 07:14 PM
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So right now the C150 is in the lead... but the Piper Traumahawk might catch it.
04-12-2015, 08:48 PM
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Carl,
While I don't have the regs in front of me, a RTG to put more passengers on would definitely require a call to the dispatcher and departing without it could lead to FAA action against you. Think about it. You put more bodies and weight on the airplane. Your takeoff data is now voided and you would be taking off with invalid numbers. Think the FAA doesn't care about that? We used to have the 1000# slop to cover this, but no more. In the end though, why would you need to know the actual regs wording? Common sense dictates the call. You changed the condition of the original release by returning. CYA at a minimum.
While I don't have the regs in front of me, a RTG to put more passengers on would definitely require a call to the dispatcher and departing without it could lead to FAA action against you. Think about it. You put more bodies and weight on the airplane. Your takeoff data is now voided and you would be taking off with invalid numbers. Think the FAA doesn't care about that? We used to have the 1000# slop to cover this, but no more. In the end though, why would you need to know the actual regs wording? Common sense dictates the call. You changed the condition of the original release by returning. CYA at a minimum.
04-12-2015, 09:38 PM
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I've flown my share of seriously crapped out rental GA airplanes, and have no desire to put myself or my family in one now. Nor do I relish the thought of single engine night IFR over shark infested waters during hurricane season.
What I would like is to be able to rent a plane in say, Florida for a spell, fly 4 people down to some of the Keys or maybe the Bahamas with enough IFR capability to get out of a jam if I had to. Like a Bonanza or a Saratoga maybe. Then on occasion, be able to fly out of another part of the country, say Arizona, in a similar aircraft and go mess around in Mexico or Vegas or something. I wonder if there are any clubs that would have a network like that...?
What I would like is to be able to rent a plane in say, Florida for a spell, fly 4 people down to some of the Keys or maybe the Bahamas with enough IFR capability to get out of a jam if I had to. Like a Bonanza or a Saratoga maybe. Then on occasion, be able to fly out of another part of the country, say Arizona, in a similar aircraft and go mess around in Mexico or Vegas or something. I wonder if there are any clubs that would have a network like that...?
Not sure what the cost is, but one universal checkout gets you access to their "network" of fbo's.
04-12-2015, 09:59 PM
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Carl,
While I don't have the regs in front of me, a RTG to put more passengers on would definitely require a call to the dispatcher and departing without it could lead to FAA action against you. Think about it. You put more bodies and weight on the airplane. Your takeoff data is now voided and you would be taking off with invalid numbers. Think the FAA doesn't care about that? We used to have the 1000# slop to cover this, but no more. In the end though, why would you need to know the actual regs wording? Common sense dictates the call. You changed the condition of the original release by returning. CYA at a minimum.
While I don't have the regs in front of me, a RTG to put more passengers on would definitely require a call to the dispatcher and departing without it could lead to FAA action against you. Think about it. You put more bodies and weight on the airplane. Your takeoff data is now voided and you would be taking off with invalid numbers. Think the FAA doesn't care about that? We used to have the 1000# slop to cover this, but no more. In the end though, why would you need to know the actual regs wording? Common sense dictates the call. You changed the condition of the original release by returning. CYA at a minimum.
This was long before the days of ACARS, cell phones or constant communication with Dispatch. I agreed to return and was on the ground less than 5 minutes while only shutting down the left engine to board the grandmotherly passenger. We arrived in PIB early and all was happy until....
About 3 weeks later, I get a call from the Chief Pilot asking me to stop by for a visit. He was in possession of a nicely written letter from the son of the lady commenting how accommodating our crew was to recover his mother. During our visit, the Chief Pilot who was a "true pilot's pilot" was glad we did what we did, but then asked if I got "redispatched" after returning.
Whoopsie... I guess no good deed goes unpunished. The Chief Pilot was supportive of our decision but recommended we contact Dispatch the next time.
I guess what I am trying to say, is use common sense. I will do what is in the best interest of my crew, my passengers and my company. (in that order). If the need dictates a new "in time" then so be it. I will handle the details to start again.
Fly safe,
OC
04-12-2015, 10:12 PM
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I have a lot of Cirrus time. Great airplane...when everything works. Lots of small MX issues, IE cht and egt probes, Autopilot issues, pfd and mfd issues. Pa28 is bulletproof, and you can get a good one for half the cost of a Cirrus.
04-13-2015, 04:00 AM
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During my tenure at an airline that merged with NWA, I was flying the last flight of the night from ATL-MEI-PIB with the layover in PIB (Pine Belt Regional serving Hattiesburg/Laurel, MS). After departure, the F/O was calling the "on/in/out/off" times to OPS and they informed us a passenger mistakenly got off in MEI and would be kind enough to return to get her? She was an older woman traveling alone and seemed somewhat disoriented.
This was long before the days of ACARS, cell phones or constant communication with Dispatch. I agreed to return and was on the ground less than 5 minutes while only shutting down the left engine to board the grandmotherly passenger. We arrived in PIB early and all was happy until....
About 3 weeks later, I get a call from the Chief Pilot asking me to stop by for a visit. He was in possession of a nicely written letter from the son of the lady commenting how accommodating our crew was to recover his mother. During our visit, the Chief Pilot who was a "true pilot's pilot" was glad we did what we did, but then asked if I got "redispatched" after returning.
Whoopsie... I guess no good deed goes unpunished. The Chief Pilot was supportive of our decision but recommended we contact Dispatch the next time.
I guess what I am trying to say, is use common sense. I will do what is in the best interest of my crew, my passengers and my company. (in that order). If the need dictates a new "in time" then so be it. I will handle the details to start again.
Fly safe,
OC
This was long before the days of ACARS, cell phones or constant communication with Dispatch. I agreed to return and was on the ground less than 5 minutes while only shutting down the left engine to board the grandmotherly passenger. We arrived in PIB early and all was happy until....
About 3 weeks later, I get a call from the Chief Pilot asking me to stop by for a visit. He was in possession of a nicely written letter from the son of the lady commenting how accommodating our crew was to recover his mother. During our visit, the Chief Pilot who was a "true pilot's pilot" was glad we did what we did, but then asked if I got "redispatched" after returning.
Whoopsie... I guess no good deed goes unpunished. The Chief Pilot was supportive of our decision but recommended we contact Dispatch the next time.
I guess what I am trying to say, is use common sense. I will do what is in the best interest of my crew, my passengers and my company. (in that order). If the need dictates a new "in time" then so be it. I will handle the details to start again.
Fly safe,
OC
04-13-2015, 04:13 AM
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Consider a Vans RV if you are thinking 2 seats. Much faster with better ability to carry weight and use short fields. You can also perform all maintenance legally yourself except sign off the conditional. They are going up in price for a reason but initial purchase price is a small part of overall ownership costs.
04-13-2015, 04:40 AM
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Consider a Vans RV if you are thinking 2 seats. Much faster with better ability to carry weight and use short fields. You can also perform all maintenance legally yourself except sign off the conditional. They are going up in price for a reason but initial purchase price is a small part of overall ownership costs.
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