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Old 03-20-2015, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Elliot
2015 Contract Opener, kind of, was emailed to everyone.
Yep. Very generic like the C2012 opener, though a tad more detail.
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by duder
Contract Opener is in your email and online.

Highlights:

Significantly increase hourly rates of pay
Provide for retroactive pay to the amendable date (if necessary) hhIncrease international pay
Establish holiday pay
Establish night pay
Establish ground pay
Establish MED pay

Increase in vacation and training day pay.

I'm in favor of all of these!
I just got it too.
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:57 PM
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Where is the companies opener?
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:59 PM
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..Disregard..
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Waiting for the "We can't afford to give you payrates like that" argument. "You see, fuel is our biggest expense and with the price coming down like it has we see an opportunity for huge stock price increases which combined with our stock options and bonuses will reap incredible windfalls for executives, so you must understand how we can't afford the payrates you're asking for."
Last time I was active on this forum was the last time we were in negotiations; I got slaughtered using language like that! Gunship, you have unrealistic expectations about what your compensation package includes. If you wanted to make that kind of money, you should have been a Fireman!

In all seriousness, we get what we demand. Not a penny more. I have a bad feeling that ALPA went in again with an opener that was about what we all would expect as a final agreement.

I really, really hope I'm way off base and totally wrong; however, the association's reputation of adopting every LOA proposed by the company (without membership vote) has left me with little confidence that we will achieve a contract = C2K at best.
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Waldorf Astoria was full.

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Carl,
I haven't really been on this forum since your resignation from the forum. At any rate, good to chat with you again.

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Old 03-20-2015, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Seaslap8
Did they arrive at the "closed session" via limo, or black helicopter?...and what kind of ties were they wearing?
Ah, if only Richard Branson were there to cut off those ties! He seems to cut RA's tie every time they meet.
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by duder
Contract Opener is in your email and online.

Highlights:

Significantly increase hourly rates of pay
Provide for retroactive pay to the amendable date (if necessary) hhIncrease international pay
Establish holiday pay
Establish night pay
Establish ground pay
Establish MED pay

Increase in vacation and training day pay.

I'm in favor of all of these!
I'm all for these also but where did you get the bullet statements. I even went to the DALPA site and looked for the negotiations link, which I thought was the huge banner, but couldn't find it.
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
I'm all for these also but where did you get the bullet statements. I even went to the DALPA site and looked for the negotiations link, which I thought was the huge banner, but couldn't find it.
Highlights of each section was in a PDF attached to the email they sent.
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by duder
Highlights of each section was in a PDF attached to the email they sent.
This is conspiratorial. I see no pdf in my email.

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