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Old 11-16-2009, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
The 747-400 is a really tough airplane to make money with in a down economy. It can mint money in an up economy. It is substantially more expensive to operate than a 777. The oldest 747-400 Delta operates is 20 years old and its cabin isn't competitive with those of other major network airlines, so it loses brand preference if all else is equal. Bastian indicated in his "chat" last week that they're going to the Board to update the interiors. Putting 777 lie-flat seats in the aircraft will cost it about 7-10% of its capacity (360-370 range), and that investment will only work if pax are willing to pay the freight and fuel prices stay reasonable. If either the economic projections go south or fuel prices go north, all 16 of those aircraft are leased and could leave the fleet fairly quickly. If the economy recovers, I'm sure that marketing will wish they had more.

The 777-300 will seat about 315 with 56 lie flat seats. For every 8 lie flat reduced, the coach count goes up 18 or so.
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It's not my business sense that wants to keep the 747-400's (I don't have one of those anyway. just look at my 401K), it's my nostalgic self. It's one of my favorite airplanes, and I would hate to see it go. That's all.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:54 PM
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thread drift,

WWII in HD color is on the history channel. Unbelievable footage fwiw

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Old 11-16-2009, 07:59 PM
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I saw it last night AND remembered to copy it to DVR. I will watch it again. It's that good. The Greatest Generation for sure....
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:05 PM
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I saw it last night AND remembered to copy it to DVR. I will watch it again. It's that good. The Greatest Generation for sure....
all this week is different footage. I dvr'd last nights and watched it today. Tonight's a whole new set in the time line.

My grandfather was a Bombardier in a B-24 in WWII. I have nothing but the utmost respect for that generation. He's still alive and well and I always look forward to his stories and experiences. Just incredible
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
all this week is different footage. I dvr'd last nights and watched it today. Tonight's a whole new set in the time line.

My grandfather was a Bombardier in a B-24 in WWII. I have nothing but the utmost respect for that generation. He's still alive and well and I always look forward to his stories and experiences. Just incredible
Whew! Good looking out, Super. You saved me. For some reason, I didn't think a new one was coming on until next week. I guess I was having Band of Brothers flashbacks....
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
It still looks like you should have a received a meal...it does not specify the segment you are on, but rather the type of meal that is specified in line 1-3, if you meet those qualifications.
We definately met line 2 with a segment over 5+30 but the first line is where the rub comes..........you get the same meal as the highest class of service so when they do not get a meal, you do not get a meal. That's the way I read it and, more importantly, that's the way the company reads it.

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Old 11-16-2009, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
We definately met line 2 with a segment over 5+30 but the first line is where the rub comes..........you get the same meal as the highest class of service so when they do not get a meal, you do not get a meal. That's the way I read it and, more importantly, that's the way the company reads it.

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I would say it's exceedingly rare for a transcon over 5+30 not to have a full meal on it... Thanks for the contractual quote! I knew it was in there someplace.

Where's the beef?
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I would say it's exceedingly rare for a transcon over 5+30 not to have a full meal on it... Thanks for the contractual quote! I knew it was in there someplace.

Where's the beef?

I was very surprised too that there wasn't even a snack for first class. I'm doing the same flight again this coming week. My meal planning will be better!

On another note, I could have looked at my rotation and seen if a meal was provided. I just assumed there would be one with that flight time but I know what I do when I ass....u....me.............!

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Old 11-16-2009, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I would say it's exceedingly rare for a transcon over 5+30 not to have a full meal on it... Thanks for the contractual quote! I knew it was in there someplace.

Where's the beef?

It is very rare - I think the flight mentioned leaves JFK at 9 pm and gets into LAS sometime after 11PM. Besides the LAS crowd is more interested in booze than food.

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Old 11-16-2009, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
It is very rare - I think the flight mentioned leaves JFK at 9 pm and gets into LAS sometime after 11PM. Besides the LAS crowd is more interested in booze than food.

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Ah, there you have it. Burger King it is. Set up the blocker for the poop brigade.
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