Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-29-2015, 05:17 PM
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I'm sure the answer is yes, but did you verify/update your address. Mine is still in the original package, but my days of being a slug are coming to a close.
I still have not received the email saying my Surface is being sent.........
01-29-2015, 05:35 PM
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01-29-2015, 07:47 PM
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Rumor, I don't really believe, that RA will leave once our contact is done. I am going to say. .. no.
01-29-2015, 07:51 PM
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See above. This kind of wrongheaded stuff actually damages the pilot group.
Carl
01-29-2015, 08:04 PM
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Because management knows we're set up to make billions, and too much of it will then go to employees. Bastian stated he was losing sleep worrying that he didn't take enough from Delta pilots during BK. Can you even imagine how much sleep he's losing now? If we drag OUR feet, it will literally cost them a billion in profit sharing. That's leverage like we've never had before. If we had a union, we could use it.
If it's in the contract, it's negotiable. That's a fact of life.
Agreed.
Carl
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01-29-2015, 08:13 PM
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01-29-2015, 08:31 PM
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01-29-2015, 09:29 PM
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Not "anything" that they may want. It's only a concession if it's worse than what we currently have. We accepted concessions during bad times. We do NOT need to accept concessions during these good times. We only need to stay within a "reasonable" range of our industry peers to keep the NMB happy. Currently, we lag the industry in every single contractual section. We lead in none. This is the time for contractual gains. Period.
See above. This kind of wrongheaded stuff actually damages the pilot group.
If you're saying you're not willing to wait, you're saying you'll take whatever management offers.
Carl
See above. This kind of wrongheaded stuff actually damages the pilot group.
If you're saying you're not willing to wait, you're saying you'll take whatever management offers.
Carl
01-30-2015, 12:44 AM
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I wanna play!
Fixed your post, added option D and E. 
It's all academic(but fun), depending on the AA pilot vote and the DAL FA vote, I bet the company has a couple different options they'd like to pursue.
I think it's good we talk about PS because there is one thing to hash out, is which one you think is better:
Option A: $150K flight pay + $30K PS = $180K.
Option B: $180K flight pay.
Option C: $150K flight pay + 18% to restore to 2004 = $177K + 'at risk' PS = $30K = $207K
Option D: $150k flt pay + 18% to restore to 2004 = $177k + PS shift to 8% pay =$191.16k + $15,840 PS at risk = $207k
Option E: $150k flt pay + 18% to restore to 2004 = $177k + PS shift to 16% pay =$205.32k + $1680 PS at risk = $207k
Thoughts b!t*hes?
Option A: $150K flight pay + $30K PS = $180K.
Option B: $180K flight pay.
Option C: $150K flight pay + 18% to restore to 2004 = $177K + 'at risk' PS = $30K = $207K
Option D: $150k flt pay + 18% to restore to 2004 = $177k + PS shift to 8% pay =$191.16k + $15,840 PS at risk = $207k
Option E: $150k flt pay + 18% to restore to 2004 = $177k + PS shift to 16% pay =$205.32k + $1680 PS at risk = $207k
Thoughts b!t*hes?
It's all academic(but fun), depending on the AA pilot vote and the DAL FA vote, I bet the company has a couple different options they'd like to pursue.
01-30-2015, 02:39 AM
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Would you agree there is no way we can sell our profit sharing without taking some kind of loss?
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