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01-06-2015, 07:43 AM

#175311

Purple Drank

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Better RR rules

Those are off the top of my head since the 1113 contract

"Better RR rules?" what planet are you on?

If there was any doubt that you are pulling hard for management, it's been erased by your cherry picking.

I'll give you a chance to list the giveaways and concessions we've accepted during the same period. Go ahead.

01-06-2015, 08:04 AM

#175312

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A321

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Training will have to start late summer if deliveries start in JAN of 16. That means a mid summer bid.

Is this going to be a separate category from the A320? What kind of pay scale does this have?

01-06-2015, 08:06 AM

#175313

forgot to bid

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Originally Posted by Scoop

Hey! I've flown with "that guy" too. The same guy who likes the 2nd engine to be running for exactly 121 seconds when you are cleared for t/off.

Scoop

My favorite to date was start the second engine when the 757 (the airplane we were behind) was cleared for takeoff since they have to give us two minutes."

Sent via my flip phone

01-06-2015, 08:33 AM

#175314

Lifeisgood

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Originally Posted by contrails

Gotcha.

So the narrowbody Airbus fleet should be nothing but growth, for a little while.

I wonder which 319/320/321 base will see most of the growth.

I heard the 321's will be "short range". Airbus asked for $20M/aircraft for (not sure) bigger fuel tank/s(?) Delta said no. So we will get 321 limited to apprx 1500 nm hard range.
To try to answer your question - ATL/DTW/NYC? Short/high density/east coast?

01-06-2015, 08:37 AM

#175315

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Edit: emailed a few more:
Reserve pay increase from 70 to 75.5 average
GS's back to double pay
GS trigger changed to include vacation and training

Don't forget a hotel for all Qualification training. Back in the "good ol' days" if you were an ATL commuter and got a bid requiring training in the ATL, it was back to the crashpad for you! That alone is a game changer in a good way.

Commuters also get a hotel for CQ if they live > 80 miles away from the training center, and they also get positive space to and from, even if based in ATL. Neither was the case when I got hired 18 years ago.

Believe it or not about a year ago I actually flew with a captain--and commuter to boot!--who didn't think we should have the jumpseat or any of the above benefits, even though he himself availed himself of them. I didn't think that any of those guys remained.

01-06-2015, 08:38 AM

#175316

Lifeisgood

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Along with additional x days
Long call int. reduced to 12hours
Full at reserve Guarantee
FO's released for IOE
Known absences counted against being full
Swap board
Positive space to work on Dh dev.
Positive space from work on DH dev.
Noon release
Increase in staffing formula
4:30 daily guarantee
Above bumped to 5:15
Sick leave 75% pay eliminated
Sick hours increased to 270 max
40 hour disability rule eliminated
Borrowing from next years sick off disability
Better DH seating
Commuter policy
Flight att Jumpseat use
Better RR rules

Those are off the top of my head since the 1113 contract

My 2 cents:
Add 3 extra weeks of vacation per pilot per year.
You will get a happy group of dudes who are not sweating small stuff.

Good luck and thanks for serving!

01-06-2015, 08:49 AM

#175317

gloopy

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

Is this going to be a separate category from the A320? What kind of pay scale does this have?

The 321 is the exact same category as the 320/319. They will be flown interchangeably on the same trip, even on the same day.

Its anyone's guess on pay, but we got rolled with the 737-900 so I'm not expecting much at all beyond similar gains there.

01-06-2015, 08:57 AM

#175318

forgot to bid

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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood

Is that true?

Sent via Timbo's satelite phone on his boat where I am desperately trying to plug this huge hole caused by Jameis Winston and 80ktsclamp.

01-06-2015, 09:22 AM

#175319

iaflyer

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Okay. I'm going to have to say that five day trips has nothing to do with reducing credit time on a given trip.

I agree - I looked at my category (73n) and of the 5 day trips, probably 80% have some credit. Some have a lot (4 ish hours on a 29 hour trip). Anyway - "what's the deal with credit on a 5 day" if they are trying to reduce credit by making 5 day trips.

Sent via Timbo's phone as he's busy between in bed with Pillow and Sheets in Dubai.

01-06-2015, 09:24 AM

#175320

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood

I was told Delta is getting the long range version of the 321. Even that version however is not a true transcon aircraft. We are getting the tanks and shark lets. American and Jetblue are making it work by limiting the number of seats. At the flight ops meeting they said the 737-900 and the 757 will be our transcon aircraft and the 321 will be more of a north south aircraft for the Florida and Caribbean markets.