Vikz09

Ok boys, I do not remember who posted the way to calculate your pay for a month when you have vacation. If I remember correctly you are almost always better to bid for reserve. With February having 30 days along with a 7 day vacation, how do I calculate may pay when reserve guarantee is 74.30 hours.

If you could provide radar vectors I would appreciate it.

Timbo

You could do that, and there are a few other ways too. What you really need to do is call the experts, on the PBS Help Line. They can walk you through it, while you are logged on to Navtech. They can tell you exactly what and how to bid. Do you need the ph. number? It's the same as when calling crew scheds, just listen to all the Scheduling menu options.

iaflyer

There is an excel spreadsheet that John Bell made up, works great. PM and I'll get it to you.

For your case, if you bid reserve you'll get paid 78:20 for the month on reserve, have 17 days off and be on call 13 days. If your category has an extra X day, add a day off and subtract an on-call day.

Scoop

Wow the February bid packages have been out for hours and no complaints about additional domestic categories that have 5 day trips.

FWIW - For LAX 73N there are more than I thought, and they pay from about 27-31 hours. Not too bad for a commuter.

Once I get the DA quirk fixed I can perform a more in depth analysis.

Scoop

hammer189

Reserve proration table. On info page of PBS towards the bottom. Lots of good stuff there. U can download and save.

MikeF16

I've got the number, thanks.

In the meantime, wasn't there a feature that would estimate how many lines could be built out of the available flying? I looked at the estimated PBS Line Count document which (I hope) didn't make sense. At the top it shows Projected Number of REG line holders (13). When I scrolled down there was a 2 column chart titled "REGS", the number here (39) wasn't the same as from the top chart -- any insight what that 2 column chart represents?

As a complete noob observation, it appeared there was way too much flying in the bid package for only 13 lines. I looked at 717 for NYC and there were a total of 105 trips for an average of 3.09 days each. For simplicity/worst case I assumed min credit of 5:15 per day, then multiplied by the average trip length of 3.09 then multiplied by trips of 105. I divided by ALV of 73 and came up with 23 lines of flying. Realistically some guys will help fill their schedule with vacation, and some of those days will give more than min credit which should mean more than 23 lines of flying. Is my math wrong or was the February estimate from the Bid Packages and Awards page incorrect?

DLpilot

Just pulled up the first set of rotations for the Feb bid package on the 88 in Atl. The first 5 day trip had a 5am sign in on day one. It was worth 30 hours...all hard time.

nwa757

Here at AA. Deal is crap. We don't get profit sharing like you guys and the TA has major holes in it which include:

-no min calendar day credit (just per duty period) we have 11 hour 3 days
-A321 pay is at A320 rate even though it carries same pax as 757. New A321neo will be able to do Europe at narrow body rates.
-5 YEARS duration which puts us well into 2020+ before a contract that doesn't have bk work rules.

TeddyKGB

It will all be ok. According to Timbo you just live where you want and commute to such schedules.

gloopy

Did they give up any scope to get it or did they hold the line/reduce "large RJ's"?