Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Looks like all of the January Captain Bid Awards are out.
Yes, your parents can nonrev. No restrictions on S. America. Since you're married they do have to pay a $75 fee for each transoceanic flight day (plus applicable taxes that we all have to pay.) I can't remember if S. America counts as Transoceanic or not.
There is a ton of info on Travelnet under Pass Policy (upper right of the page) where you can find all the details. It takes a little clicking around, but most of the answers you would need are in there somewhere.
There is a ton of info on Travelnet under Pass Policy (upper right of the page) where you can find all the details. It takes a little clicking around, but most of the answers you would need are in there somewhere.
Last edited by MikeF16; 12-14-2014 at 07:54 AM.
So while some proclaim the ten fold increase in protected block hours, I thought "that's nice, but is that really worth anything? Does the LOA realistically protect anything?" So I went back to '98 looking at EOY Int'l ASMs [ASMs were much easier to find. I think they are a close enough comparison to block hours for this purpose] . After 911, it took 2 years, but ASMs did decrease by 19.8%. After bankruptcy, ASMs actually increased. After the merger, ASMs bottomed 6.2% below the peak combined levels. Interestingly it has taken longer to recover from the merger cuts than the 911 cuts despite the fact the 911 cuts were much more drastic. It looks like we will finally surpass our '08 Int'l ASM number this year.
So theoretically, this agreement would protect us against a 911 level event or would it? Bankruptcy proved nothing is safe. So I guess what I am left with is if the goal was to protect Int'l flying, yes we protected alot but with 12.5% unprotected, did we really protect anything?
As for growth, hopefully it will eventually payoff. However with VS getting growth before we are required to, how long and how many new contracts and LOAs will come and go before that pays off. Maybe the bottom half of the seniority list will see a payoff but I am skeptical I will see any benefit.
Finally, does the TA language really mean the company can be out of compliance every other year? I just can't believe we would sign something like that after what we have witnessed the last 3+ years. Please tell me the lawyers all agree that can't happen.
Bob
So theoretically, this agreement would protect us against a 911 level event or would it? Bankruptcy proved nothing is safe. So I guess what I am left with is if the goal was to protect Int'l flying, yes we protected alot but with 12.5% unprotected, did we really protect anything?
As for growth, hopefully it will eventually payoff. However with VS getting growth before we are required to, how long and how many new contracts and LOAs will come and go before that pays off. Maybe the bottom half of the seniority list will see a payoff but I am skeptical I will see any benefit.
Finally, does the TA language really mean the company can be out of compliance every other year? I just can't believe we would sign something like that after what we have witnessed the last 3+ years. Please tell me the lawyers all agree that can't happen.
Bob
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"Cure period" is a legal term synonymous with "grace period". If I were to say "you owe rent at the end of each month but can cure any shortfall by paying rent in the subsequent month" it simply means you have a one month grace period to pay back rent. It doesn't mean you get free rent if you don't pay.
I wish you weren't wrong, but you are. And it makes a great deal of sense if you're the company. It allows them enormous flexibility to use the metal they think is appropriate during any year.
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And why would there ever even be an upper line? And in the extremely unlikely event the upper line was exceeded, would we owe them some jobs?
Nevermind. Just saw this explanation in the Negotiator's notepad.
For both the global production balance and the LHR minimums, the measurement periods will each be one calendar year, beginning in 2014. Compliance will be measured on each January 1 for the prior year. If the Company is out of compliance with either minimum, they must return to compliance the following year. Failure to do so will expose them to damages for the contract violation and an expedited arbitration process, if necessary, under Section 1 M.
So what is the purpouse of the 50% "target" line? If the only real goal that ever has to be met is the bottom line, why even have the 50% so called target line?
And why would there ever even be an upper line? And in the extremely unlikely event the upper line was exceeded, would we owe them some jobs?
And why would there ever even be an upper line? And in the extremely unlikely event the upper line was exceeded, would we owe them some jobs?
They even give an example in the PWA that was quite apt:
"Example: If the Company’s EASK capacity share is out of compliance with its minimum EASK allocation for the three-year measurement period ending March 31, 2014, then the Company will return its EASK capacity share to compliance with its minimum EASK allocation for the three year measurement period ending March 31, 2015."
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The production split was 50% us, 50% AF/KLM. We have a 1.5% "grace" window for slight adjustments for temporary adjustments. Apparently, they can't even maintain the level with those adjustments.
They even give an example in the PWA that was quite apt:
"Example: If the Company’s EASK capacity share is out of compliance with its minimum EASK allocation for the three-year measurement period ending March 31, 2014, then the Company will not return its EASK capacity share to compliance with its minimum EASK allocation for the three year measurement period ending March 31, 2015."
They even give an example in the PWA that was quite apt:
"Example: If the Company’s EASK capacity share is out of compliance with its minimum EASK allocation for the three-year measurement period ending March 31, 2014, then the Company will not return its EASK capacity share to compliance with its minimum EASK allocation for the three year measurement period ending March 31, 2015."
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I rarely agree with Carl but he is correct on this issue.
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