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Sailing you are indeed confused.
It appears you don't understand that the cure period ends March 2015 at the black vertical line labeled Cure date.
That's when we measure (again) and are able to grieve the existing non-compliance.
Sailing, it appears that perhaps you are erroneously looking at September 2015?
When it comes to the measurement period, it appears you haven't even looked at the language in the PWA where it states it is a rolling 36-month look-back...
Please reference PWA 1.P.6:
So just to confirm:
George
It appears you don't understand that the cure period ends March 2015 at the black vertical line labeled Cure date.
That's when we measure (again) and are able to grieve the existing non-compliance.
Sailing, it appears that perhaps you are erroneously looking at September 2015?
When it comes to the measurement period, it appears you haven't even looked at the language in the PWA where it states it is a rolling 36-month look-back...
Please reference PWA 1.P.6:
So just to confirm:
- Cure period ends March 30, 2015
- At the end of March 2015 the 36-month rolling look-back must at least reach 48.5% (that's the dashed lower red line)
George
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This forum stated that it would be rolled into the VA agreement many times. That did not happen. We are expected as part of the grievance process to try and reach a settlement with the company. I fully expect the MEC to file a grievance this spring. If we will reach a settlement with the company prior to going to the arbitrator I have no idea. The shortfall is not however as large as some perceive. Some value will have to be attached to the shortfall at some point in the process via a settlement or the arbitrator.
It appears you now understand the 36-month rolling-average look-back we take at the end of March 2015.
The shortfall will be much larger than the erroneous hear-say numbers you have been putting out here on this forum.
Cheers
George
Thanks, everyone, for the gouge the other night. JB also recommended foran's. Got in late and wanted to stay close, so I went there. Tried Short's Huma Lupa Licious. Rock-solid IPA. Food was...OK.
Long DTW might become a Plan B layover:
- Pack a couple cans of Dale's
- Chill in sink using hotel laundry bag with ice
- Order pizza
Long DTW might become a Plan B layover:
- Pack a couple cans of Dale's
- Chill in sink using hotel laundry bag with ice
- Order pizza
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I heard a rumor that Alaska airline called a mandatory meeting for their employees and one of the guys that I talked to at that meeting said that Alaska and delta are both looking to cut ties with their code share agreement.
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That is a perfect question for the brand spankin' new Alaska thread. Hop on over and ask. Them boys is always ready to help. Ask for the "Cricket."
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If you look at the numbers put out at the MEC meeting the code share is almost dead already.
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So while some proclaim the ten fold increase in protected block hours, I thought "that's nice, but is that really worth anything? Does the LOA realistically protect anything?" So I went back to '98 looking at EOY Int'l ASMs [ASMs were much easier to find. I think they are a close enough comparison to block hours for this purpose] . After 911, it took 2 years, but ASMs did decrease by 19.8%. After bankruptcy, ASMs actually increased. After the merger, ASMs bottomed 6.2% below the peak combined levels. Interestingly it has taken longer to recover from the merger cuts than the 911 cuts despite the fact the 911 cuts were much more drastic. It looks like we will finally surpass our '08 Int'l ASM number this year.
So theoretically, this agreement would protect us against a 911 level event or would it? Bankruptcy proved nothing is safe. So I guess what I am left with is if the goal was to protect Int'l flying, yes we protected alot but with 12.5% unprotected, did we really protect anything?
As for growth, hopefully it will eventually payoff. However with VS getting growth before we are required to, how long and how many new contracts and LOAs will come and go before that pays off. Maybe the bottom half of the seniority list will see a payoff but I am skeptical I will see any benefit.
Finally, does the TA language really mean the company can be out of compliance every other year? I just can't believe we would sign something like that after what we have witnessed the last 3+ years. Please tell me the lawyers all agree that can't happen.
Bob
So theoretically, this agreement would protect us against a 911 level event or would it? Bankruptcy proved nothing is safe. So I guess what I am left with is if the goal was to protect Int'l flying, yes we protected alot but with 12.5% unprotected, did we really protect anything?
As for growth, hopefully it will eventually payoff. However with VS getting growth before we are required to, how long and how many new contracts and LOAs will come and go before that pays off. Maybe the bottom half of the seniority list will see a payoff but I am skeptical I will see any benefit.
Finally, does the TA language really mean the company can be out of compliance every other year? I just can't believe we would sign something like that after what we have witnessed the last 3+ years. Please tell me the lawyers all agree that can't happen.
Bob
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Sorry to switch gears, but was wondering about life during training at Delta. I know hotels are not paid, but what about positive space tickets on breaks and uniforms, are they paid for? Thanks for the heads up
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