Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? >

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Search

Notices

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-25-2014, 03:55 PM
  #171191  
Da Hudge
 
80ktsClamp's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Default

Originally Posted by contrails
Is the guy that did the sick bag container thing still doing that these days?
Nope...But hallelujah, we have a real STC'd cubby now!
80ktsClamp is offline  
Old 10-25-2014, 04:02 PM
  #171192  
Gets Weekends Off
 
newKnow's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 765-A
Posts: 6,844
Default

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
That code still works. On the blue screen, JCPXXXX (XXXX=flight number) and hit enter. Some agents might not appreciate it though because you're tying up their printer for several minutes to print out something that has already been printed.

I'm still curious why you like to split the thing up, turning one document into four. Do you have different places that you put each new document? Otherwise, you now have four documents instead of one and when you want to find something you have to first sort through the stack to find which document contains what you're looking for. It just seems to me that it's easier to have one document, be familiar with the format so that you know the order in which things appear, and then you (and your F/O) are picking up the right document (the only document) on the first try and you can flip right to what you're looking for.
Yes. That code still works. I use it if the agent is busy. But, there was another one that allowed you to hi light the part of the paperwork you wanted to print, then print only that portion. That was a nice feature, because it saved a lot of trees.

Now, I "split the thing up" because the flight plan is normally way too long to begin with and it's easier to split that off from the rest of it when you track your fuel burn and times.

I split the NOTAMS from the weather, for the same reason. JFK/LAX/SFO/SEA/ATL normally have way to many NOTAMS to keep with the weather. To me, it's easier to keep them apart. Go over the TP's again while you are enroute and not get bogged down by all the NOTAMS and go over the destinations NOTAMS when you get closer to landing again and not get bogged down by the weather.

The flight attendant briefing form goes to the lead flight attendant when I brief him/her. Like NERD, I add the weather, expected ride, MX, taxi times, notes, ect., to that.

So, really there are only three documents up there: the flight plan, NOTAMS, and weather.

I tried it your "non-splitting" way a few times. But, it was way to cumbersome to have the flight plan attached to the NOTAMS and WX while filling out the HOWGOZIT. It was too much paper to be rustling around.
newKnow is offline  
Old 10-25-2014, 04:02 PM
  #171193  
The Brown Dot +1
 
scambo1's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Default

Originally Posted by Delta1067
How does that benefit you? I don't see how that gets you ahead.
Because it pays single pay over the reserve guarantee and it gets you a payback day. If you don't do it, a GS on call days just counts toward your reserve commitment.
scambo1 is offline  
Old 10-25-2014, 04:04 PM
  #171194  
Gets Weekends Off
 
newKnow's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 765-A
Posts: 6,844
Default

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Whoops, I thought you were talking printing a second release!
No way. Not the whole thing. Too many trees and too much noise.
newKnow is offline  
Old 10-25-2014, 04:05 PM
  #171195  
Gets Weekends Off
 
TeddyKGB's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: 7er
Posts: 1,673
Default

Originally Posted by scambo1
Because it pays single pay over the reserve guarantee and it gets you a payback day. If you don't do it, a GS on call days just counts toward your reserve commitment.
A GS on reserve day pays above guarantee for the 1st day of the trip. I had one last year and I'm pretty sure that is how it got paid out. Otherwise, why would one agree to a report < 12 if there is no benefit to the pilot? Perhaps I'm looking at it wrong. I can see the PB day being the advantage but I don't see how it changes the pay.
TeddyKGB is offline  
Old 10-25-2014, 04:14 PM
  #171196  
The Brown Dot +1
 
scambo1's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Default

Originally Posted by Delta1067
A GS on reserve day pays above guarantee for the 1st day of the trip. I had one last year and I'm pretty sure that is how it got paid out. Otherwise, why would one agree to a report < 12 if there is no benefit to the pilot? Perhaps I'm looking at it wrong. I can see the PB day being the advantage but I don't see how it changes the pay.
I'm not talking about report less than 12 out.
scambo1 is offline  
Old 10-25-2014, 04:29 PM
  #171197  
Moderator
 
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 6,991
Default

Originally Posted by Brocc15
One correction to the GS for a reserve, if the first day of the GS is an on call day, that day is above guarantee too I got that one once.


Brocc,

What I think you are referring to is either a less than 12 hour call-out when on long call or an earlier than contractual report time on day 1.

I have had both of these pay as GS.

I believe that you are correct in the above scenarios and both of these situations would pay as a GS even though it was an "on-call" day. Other than those two situations, I am not sure that it would be a GS.

Not sure about schedulers letting you move an X day to an on call day but its worth a try.

Scoop
Scoop is offline  
Old 10-25-2014, 04:30 PM
  #171198  
At home on the maddog!
 
DAL 88 Driver's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ATL MD-88A
Posts: 2,874
Default

Originally Posted by newKnow
Yes. That code still works. I use it if the agent is busy. But, there was another one that allowed you to hi light the part of the paperwork you wanted to print, then print only that portion. That was a nice feature, because it saved a lot of trees.

Now, I "split the thing up" because the flight plan is normally way too long to begin with and it's easier to split that off from the rest of it when you track your fuel burn and times.

I split the NOTAMS from the weather, for the same reason. JFK/LAX/SFO/SEA/ATL normally have way to many NOTAMS to keep with the weather. To me, it's easier to keep them apart. Go over the TP's again while you are enroute and not get bogged down by all the NOTAMS and go over the destinations NOTAMS when you get closer to landing again and not get bogged down by the weather.

The flight attendant briefing form goes to the lead flight attendant when I brief him/her. Like NERD, I add the weather, expected ride, MX, taxi times, notes, ect., to that.

So, really there are only three documents up there: the flight plan, NOTAMS, and weather.

I tried it your "non-splitting" way a few times. But, it was way to cumbersome to have the flight plan attached to the NOTAMS and WX while filling out the HOWGOZIT. It was too much paper to be rustling around.
Okay. Got it. I didn't think about long haul flying with a much longer flight plan (HOWGOZIT) section. I can see where you would want that separate when you're having to constantly update it on a long flight. I fly the 88 and it's not really an issue for us for the length of flights we do. Sorry for the confusion.
DAL 88 Driver is offline  
Old 10-25-2014, 04:32 PM
  #171199  
Gets Weekends Off
 
TeddyKGB's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: 7er
Posts: 1,673
Default

Originally Posted by scambo1
I'm not talking about report less than 12 out.
Then what are you talking about? The whole idea behind a GS while on reserve days is that is has to be less than 12 hours to report, LC assumed. If it's more than 12 hours out why would they give you a GS on reserve days? They would just assign you the trip as a reserve pilot. I'm not following your scenario.
TeddyKGB is offline  
Old 10-25-2014, 04:46 PM
  #171200  
Gets Weekends Off
 
TeddyKGB's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: 7er
Posts: 1,673
Default

Originally Posted by scambo1
Because it pays single pay over the reserve guarantee and it gets you a payback day. If you don't do it, a GS on call days just counts toward your reserve commitment.
Incorrect.........
TeddyKGB is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
On Autopilot
Regional
22594
11-05-2021 07:03 AM
AeroCrewSolut
Delta
153
08-14-2018 12:18 PM
Bill Lumberg
Major
71
06-13-2012 08:36 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM
JiffyLube
Major
12
03-07-2008 04:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices