Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-15-2014, 10:01 AM
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From the AMS meeting.
-900 to 950 million in profit sharing
-We had 14c per gallon fuel cost advantage. Losing it however because it was from hedges that are going south fast.
-Domestic mainline fleet count will reach 667 in 2015 up from 594
-NRT was 80% of Orient traffic. Will be down to 50% next year but should stabilize. Beach traffic strong.
-747's losing 150 million a year. Expect 3 to 4 parked each fall until gone. No displacements this year if 25 pilots take ER.
-757 domestic fleet will go down to 76 airframes plus the internationals and 300's. NBA contract not inked but if it happens 10 to 14 more 757's.
-737-900 Very happy with airframe. Very low transcon cost.
-717-pleasant surprise, very reliable.
-off sight 717, 737, 330 training will be required to meet demand.
-decision to shift west coast future feed from 717 to 737. Possible 737 base in SEA.
-330 base bid early 2015 for NYC funded by new airframes.
-left 2500 757 block hours unused in JUL and Aug due to crew shortage. Not enough notice from marketing.
-would like 777 temporary bases to reduce credit.
-SEA airport working hard with us for additional gates and customs facilities.
-additional pilot widebody block hours will be in SEA and JFK. Other bases stable except DTW which may shrink some.
RFP, it was asked that comments stay off the forums however decision should be released 4 to 5 days after BOD meeting.
-900 to 950 million in profit sharing
-We had 14c per gallon fuel cost advantage. Losing it however because it was from hedges that are going south fast.
-Domestic mainline fleet count will reach 667 in 2015 up from 594
-NRT was 80% of Orient traffic. Will be down to 50% next year but should stabilize. Beach traffic strong.
-747's losing 150 million a year. Expect 3 to 4 parked each fall until gone. No displacements this year if 25 pilots take ER.
-757 domestic fleet will go down to 76 airframes plus the internationals and 300's. NBA contract not inked but if it happens 10 to 14 more 757's.
-737-900 Very happy with airframe. Very low transcon cost.
-717-pleasant surprise, very reliable.
-off sight 717, 737, 330 training will be required to meet demand.
-decision to shift west coast future feed from 717 to 737. Possible 737 base in SEA.
-330 base bid early 2015 for NYC funded by new airframes.
-left 2500 757 block hours unused in JUL and Aug due to crew shortage. Not enough notice from marketing.
-would like 777 temporary bases to reduce credit.
-SEA airport working hard with us for additional gates and customs facilities.
-additional pilot widebody block hours will be in SEA and JFK. Other bases stable except DTW which may shrink some.
RFP, it was asked that comments stay off the forums however decision should be released 4 to 5 days after BOD meeting.
Do you see any growth in Delta pilot/ Delta metal international flying going into 2015 or more code share (ie we don't take ownership of our flying and are international ticket brokers) nonsense?
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10-15-2014, 10:13 AM
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Maybe the Atlantic market as a whole isn't doing as bad as we've been told after all? Would be great to see Delta step up and get more aggressive. Regarding new markets in China being forged with 787's, the pioneering airline almost always has the advantage. United and AA are doing this now...the so called long, thin routes. Anybody know if Delta has any plans in this regard?
AA, BA CEOs Bullish On Transatlantic Demand - Business Travel News
AA, BA CEOs Bullish On Transatlantic Demand - Business Travel News
10-15-2014, 10:25 AM
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Just so I am reading you correctly, the net increase of 73 airframes will be 717's, 737's and a couple A330's while parking airframes from the 7ER and 747 categories? When you say the fleet will go from 559 to 667 in 2015 are you counting airframes (717's/737's) that have already arrived or from point in time now to 2015?
Do you see any growth in Delta pilot/ Delta metal international flying going into 2015 or more code share (ie we don't take ownership of our flying and are international ticket brokers) nonsense?
Do you see any growth in Delta pilot/ Delta metal international flying going into 2015 or more code share (ie we don't take ownership of our flying and are international ticket brokers) nonsense?
Ed,
They are counting them as the come. I had the same exact numbers form the LAX meeting including a snapshot from sometime 2014 at 614:
Mainline aircraft:
2009 - 594
2014- 614
2015 - 667
AS of 30 September we had the following number of 717s and 737-900s in service:
24 737 -900s in service
40 717s
So it looks the 594 was at or was near a mainline low in 2009, and the 667 number will include all or most of our orders through 2015 less the aircraft that we plan on parking.
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10-15-2014, 10:27 AM
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[QUOTE=EdGrimley;1746800]Maybe the Atlantic market as a whole isn't doing as bad as we've been told after all? Would be great to see Delta step up and get more aggressive. Regarding new markets in China being forged with 787's, the pioneering airline almost always has the advantage. United and AA are doing this now...the so called long, thin routes. Anybody know if Delta has any plans in this regard?
AA, BA CEOs Bullish On Transatlantic Demand - Business Travel News[/QUOTE
Pretty tough to do with a CR9 or E170. Maybe if they block 2/3 of the seats and put aux tanks in the cabin
AA, BA CEOs Bullish On Transatlantic Demand - Business Travel News[/QUOTE
Pretty tough to do with a CR9 or E170. Maybe if they block 2/3 of the seats and put aux tanks in the cabin
10-15-2014, 10:31 AM
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Is the increase in medical really 3% of any full time employee's total salary? I did some napkin math and it didn't seem to be even close, but I understand the point you're trying to make I guess. The real question is the cost sharing split. They claim they are fronting 80% of the cost increases, and costs are increasing big time (almost completely due to government interference but I digress). The notion that you can slap down a card and someone else magically pays unlimited amounts of money for an entitlement just doesn't work. Its even more mathematically impossible than a 20 and out municipal FAE pension.
10-15-2014, 10:33 AM
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Hey guys
I'm putting my 15-year old daughter on a flight to MSP tomorrow. I'll be taking her to the gate, of course, but on the return flight....does she need some form of ID to get thru TSA? She's non-revving.
Thanks in advance,
Buzz
I'm putting my 15-year old daughter on a flight to MSP tomorrow. I'll be taking her to the gate, of course, but on the return flight....does she need some form of ID to get thru TSA? She's non-revving.
Thanks in advance,
Buzz
10-15-2014, 10:34 AM
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Sounds like the perfect time to overfly them and force them to liquidate the market. We can't unconditionally retreat whenever and wherever someone dumps capacity on us. Sooner or later we will have to fight. If we wait until we absolutely have to, it may be too late. We'll be wishing we spent that 2.5+B in "shareholder returns" sever other ways.
10-15-2014, 10:42 AM
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Anybody know if Delta has any plans in this regard?
AA, BA CEOs Bullish On Transatlantic Demand - Business Travel News
AA, BA CEOs Bullish On Transatlantic Demand - Business Travel News
Just never adds up.
10-15-2014, 10:48 AM
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She shouldn't. When my 15 year old non revs, TSA just asks her how old she is.
10-15-2014, 10:50 AM
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