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09-25-2014, 11:51 AM
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09-25-2014, 12:36 PM
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Thanks for the run-down, Scoop. I hope I wasn't "howling" too badly. It is what it is, and I certainly "get" the company's viewpoint on that however much I might wish it didn't work that way. My main frustration is figuring this all out--I wasn't exaggerating when I said I'm working harder on PBS & iCrew & PWA than I did in training....
So, devil's advocate (with the full knowledge that no amount of carping on here will change anything, and preparing to be summarily slapped down as the dumb new guy): wouldn't the RAW value be a better indicator if it took into consideration the amount of time left in the month? It makes no sense, at least in the specific case I cited, to give flying to someone who is presumed not to want it over someone who does, in the same bucket of days, nowhere near ALV (let alone ALV+15), with five days left in the bid period, simply because the one who wanted it had crossed a threshold into another RAW grouping. "Shouldn't" the RAW formula take that into account--something proportional to, say [ALV - (some daily average number) * (number of days left in month)]...?
PS: Got a line for Oct. Less than one full month on Reserve (IOE finished early Sep). Life is good in 717-land from a seniority perspective. Hoping I can hold it going forward and that I don't ever have to spell "YS" again....
So, devil's advocate (with the full knowledge that no amount of carping on here will change anything, and preparing to be summarily slapped down as the dumb new guy): wouldn't the RAW value be a better indicator if it took into consideration the amount of time left in the month? It makes no sense, at least in the specific case I cited, to give flying to someone who is presumed not to want it over someone who does, in the same bucket of days, nowhere near ALV (let alone ALV+15), with five days left in the bid period, simply because the one who wanted it had crossed a threshold into another RAW grouping. "Shouldn't" the RAW formula take that into account--something proportional to, say [ALV - (some daily average number) * (number of days left in month)]...?
PS: Got a line for Oct. Less than one full month on Reserve (IOE finished early Sep). Life is good in 717-land from a seniority perspective. Hoping I can hold it going forward and that I don't ever have to spell "YS" again....
Jughead,
I was not referring to you at all, and you certainly were not "howling" just asking the same questions as many who have been here for years.
To answer your question, "We" as Pilots would all like to see Yellow Slips honored over RAW - that gives us more control both junior and senior alike. The company likes to match days of availability to more efficiently use reserve Pilots.
There are many times when the system does not appear to make sense, but keep in mind that the reserve system is a compromise between what we (Pilots) want and what the company wants. What seems foolish this month may greatly help the company during IROPs in a short month down the road.
With that said, we should always be trying to improve the system and aim for a fair system that does not provide a "windfall" for senior Pilots at the expense of more junior Pilots.
Congratulations on getting a line so quickly.
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09-25-2014, 01:22 PM
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YSs honored above RAW would be a good win... but the company wouldn't want us to time out before the month ends... scooped is spot on.
09-25-2014, 03:50 PM
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Back to the moving X-days saga...things have opened up a bit, BTW.
Can you move Golden Days? When I try to move them (reserve coverage looks good) I get "VIOLATES OFFDAY GROUPING REQUIREMENTS." Near as I can tell that means I have violated the max number of groups of days off, no? In my case I haven't attempted to violate that restriction and the only thing I can figure it might be is I'm trying to move Golden Days...
Can you move Golden Days? When I try to move them (reserve coverage looks good) I get "VIOLATES OFFDAY GROUPING REQUIREMENTS." Near as I can tell that means I have violated the max number of groups of days off, no? In my case I haven't attempted to violate that restriction and the only thing I can figure it might be is I'm trying to move Golden Days...
09-25-2014, 04:00 PM
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Back to the moving X-days saga...things have opened up a bit, BTW.
Can you move Golden Days? When I try to move them (reserve coverage looks good) I get "VIOLATES OFFDAY GROUPING REQUIREMENTS." Near as I can tell that means I have violated the max number of groups of days off, no? In my case I haven't attempted to violate that restriction and the only thing I can figure it might be is I'm trying to move Golden Days...
Can you move Golden Days? When I try to move them (reserve coverage looks good) I get "VIOLATES OFFDAY GROUPING REQUIREMENTS." Near as I can tell that means I have violated the max number of groups of days off, no? In my case I haven't attempted to violate that restriction and the only thing I can figure it might be is I'm trying to move Golden Days...
09-25-2014, 04:30 PM
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Back to the moving X-days saga...things have opened up a bit, BTW.
Can you move Golden Days? When I try to move them (reserve coverage looks good) I get "VIOLATES OFFDAY GROUPING REQUIREMENTS." Near as I can tell that means I have violated the max number of groups of days off, no? In my case I haven't attempted to violate that restriction and the only thing I can figure it might be is I'm trying to move Golden Days...
Can you move Golden Days? When I try to move them (reserve coverage looks good) I get "VIOLATES OFFDAY GROUPING REQUIREMENTS." Near as I can tell that means I have violated the max number of groups of days off, no? In my case I haven't attempted to violate that restriction and the only thing I can figure it might be is I'm trying to move Golden Days...
In my experience, most likely you are forgetting that you have to have at least 3 or 4 of on-calls days in a row (3 for domestic, 4 for 7ER, more for other fleets) if you are moving X-days.
09-25-2014, 04:30 PM
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Correct. I just moved a couple golden days and they became regular x days.
09-25-2014, 04:53 PM
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Thanks guys, I'll keep nugging through it.
09-25-2014, 06:21 PM
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Will we receive a15% contribution to our 401k based on this PS deposit?
09-25-2014, 06:25 PM
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