I'm actually expecting some form of "help us buy airplanes" in C15. I'm sure it will be in their opener, and will probably survive in some form for our consumption/consideration.

09-17-2014, 07:49 AM

#168712

Gack727

Line Holder

Joined APC: Jul 2010

Posts: 32

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09-17-2014, 07:54 AM

#168713

scambo1

The Brown Dot +1

Joined APC: Jun 2009

Position: 777B

Posts: 7,775

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyerc90

Experts: Using PB days, it was my understanding that in the past, upon getting a reg line, a pilot could use a banked PB day to drop a trip, and then pick it back up on the very same pcs run since drops run before pickups. (as long as no one senior had a blanket WS in and would get the newly dropped trip).

Is this still possible? Or did the rules change with an LOA awhile ago? The same LOA that changed "trip parking." If I did this on a noon PCS run, can I pick up the dropped trip at noon? Or do I have to wait till the 1700 run?

Still works. If you only have a single pb day, it'll drop the trip but only credit the first day. Sharpshoot carefully.

09-17-2014, 08:05 AM

#168714

Denny Crane

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Sep 2008

Position: Kickin’ Back

Posts: 6,971

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyerc90

I'll preface this by saying take a look at the Scheduling Reference Handbook about page 60+. It will tell you about PB days and how to use them.

That being said, I'm pretty sure that any trip or portion of a trip dropped with PB days is considered pay AND credit. Take a look at your max pick up at the bottom of your schedule. If it says you have enough room to pick it up before you use the PB days, you will have it afterwards. The tricky part is if you only drop part of the trip and how that affects your max pick up. I ran into this max pick up problem a month ago. I was legal FAR 117 wise but my max pick up prevented me from white slipping a trip. (I had used payback days to drop a couple trips.)

I'm not sure about picking it back up on the same PCS run. Never tried it.

Good luck!

Denny

Last edited by Denny Crane; 09-17-2014 at 08:26 AM. Reason: Spelling and Grammar

09-17-2014, 08:07 AM

#168715

tsquare

No longer cares

Joined APC: Mar 2008

Position: 767er Captain

Posts: 12,109

Quote:

Originally Posted by gloopy

Boeing doesn't care about us at all. They are too buzy laundering US consumer and taxpayer money through ME middlemen due to intentionally failed energy policy and our leading role in providing a global police state.

Whoa. Care to expand on that a little?

09-17-2014, 08:29 AM

#168716

flyerc90

On Reserve

Joined APC: May 2010

Posts: 17

Thanks Scambo and Denny, I will take those thoughts into account. My main concern was dropping the 2day ( i have 2 PB days) and then not being able to get it again if it had to sit in the pot for 5hrs for all to see, and someone senior getting it on the next run.

09-17-2014, 08:37 AM

#168717

cni187

Doing Nothing

Joined APC: Aug 2010

Posts: 1,316

Quote:

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

I kind of agree, I don't think it's a barometer of the pilot group, just a barometer of the pilots who are paying attention.

A barometer of the 20 or so people that comment on here. 20/12083 * 100 = .165% so if it were up to 30 people commenting on here then 30/12083 * 100 = .248%. Don't even know what kind of drop that is in some size bucket.

09-17-2014, 08:45 AM

#168718

cni187

Doing Nothing

Joined APC: Aug 2010

Posts: 1,316

Quote:

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

So I am sitting at the gate reading the contract survey document from the union, look up to see a MD90 taxi by on the ramp with two fire trucks following it, look back down and continue laughing at the survey.

Life is entertaining.

Compressor stall on #2 on takeoff. My mx buddy was there in Atl. Said it was fun with Obama being there and all.

09-17-2014, 08:48 AM

#168719

Maddoggin

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Jan 2008

Posts: 204

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Harley

The fact that this order seems to keep moving to later in the year tells me that it will be a part of our C2015 contract, i.e., we'll order not just 50 WB's but 100 WB's if the pilots agree to the company's early C2015 offer.

Completely agree. The order is going to be a part of the 2015 package. I halfway thought about this back when we signed a 3 year deal on the last contract. They knew then the widebody order would be lining up right on time for this contract.