Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-30-2014, 06:48 AM
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08-30-2014, 06:59 AM
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That's not necessarily true sailingfun. It depends on what management/DALPA wants. It is the management/DALPA desire which you will use to find data to support 100%.
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08-30-2014, 07:16 AM
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Get real, how much money do you think is involved in training 40 Captains? Most of the costs are fixed. Your saying if the company offers a ER program in seniority order and fully funds the incentives in the program we should tell them to stick it unless they give us more? The cost for the ER program is almost certain to exceed the training costs. The company will simply say fine we won't do the program. A displacement bid will be posted the next day.
08-30-2014, 07:16 AM
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What's the cost of over staffing the 744 for a little while?
08-30-2014, 07:27 AM
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I agree 100%. 60+ year olds with full pensions based upon pre-BK pay rates. Pass.
08-30-2014, 07:45 AM
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Displacements will come from the bottom of the whale list. Better go look at the seniority list for the bottom 25% on the whale most of these guys aren't to the 60 year mark yet.
08-30-2014, 07:48 AM
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Don't worry 95% of those being displaced are under 60.
08-30-2014, 07:51 AM
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Get real, how much money do you think is involved in training 40 Captains? Most of the costs are fixed. Your saying if the company offers a ER program in seniority order and fully funds the incentives in the program we should tell them to stick it unless they give us more? The cost for the ER program is almost certain to exceed the training costs. The company will simply say fine we won't do the program. A displacement bid will be posted the next day.
And I'm not buying for one second your argument that displacing 747 captains is low cost. Especially if some of them will only be on the new equipment for a few months and then retire.
Get real. Management doesn't "fully fund" anything out of the goodness of their hearts. They are offering to do it because it saves them money.
08-30-2014, 07:54 AM
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08-30-2014, 08:04 AM
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I think we should have just left the 117 negotiations and this ER deal alone and told them we'll talk about this stuff in 2015. The company is getting everything that gives us leverage out of the way so that they can run the operation for a few years during record profits without negotiating a new contract.
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