Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-18-2014, 04:00 PM
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08-18-2014, 04:00 PM
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T, I'm with you. This place is starting to suck again. Maybe this will brighten you day.
How bout some 16th National Championship Underboob?
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Or some Big 10 underboob in honor Council 54?
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And for Buzz and all the guys who waste their Sunday's watching the Chickified NFL theres this.
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Can we can the constant bickering and talk about important stuff?
How bout some 16th National Championship Underboob?
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Or some Big 10 underboob in honor Council 54?
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And for Buzz and all the guys who waste their Sunday's watching the Chickified NFL theres this.
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Can we can the constant bickering and talk about important stuff?
Last edited by vagabond; 08-18-2014 at 04:46 PM. Reason: use your imagination instead, if you have one
08-18-2014, 04:15 PM
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08-18-2014, 04:46 PM
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I respectfully disagree. By stating that the profit sharing for 2014 and 2015 are not yet known, and by adding a footnote to the 10% stating that it is an estimate, they are treating it as a conservative guess as to what may happen.
The reader (me, in this case) was left to draw his own conclusions as to the likelihood of the estimate and the desirability of placing this amount of my compensation at risk. Hopefully, the survey will give me an opportunity to express my views on that subject. If not, I will let my rep know how I feel on the subject.
Agreed. Keep in mind that the document we've been discussing is the Contract History, which showed the history (duh) of our two airline pilot contracts over the past 20 years or so. I recently received the Contract Comparison (I assume we all did) that provides the comparison with our peers.
The reader (me, in this case) was left to draw his own conclusions as to the likelihood of the estimate and the desirability of placing this amount of my compensation at risk. Hopefully, the survey will give me an opportunity to express my views on that subject. If not, I will let my rep know how I feel on the subject.
Agreed. Keep in mind that the document we've been discussing is the Contract History, which showed the history (duh) of our two airline pilot contracts over the past 20 years or so. I recently received the Contract Comparison (I assume we all did) that provides the comparison with our peers.
Several pages pack (whew, it's been busy here) I asked you about your thoughts on combining the JV non-compliance into Contract 2015.
You stated they should be separate issues and resolved independently. (Please correct me if I'm wrong about your answer).
We agree on that issue.
My fear is that these items will NOT be resolved as independent issues and the JV non-compliance will be folded into C2015 and dismissed.
I have informed my MEC reps this would be unacceptable. I encourage others to do the same.
Follow up question,
I quoted you above about profit sharing. Your sentence (in bold) concerns me. You claim profit sharing is a "risk" in compensation. Are you encouraging reducing profit sharing in order to increase pay rates when we negotiate Contract 2015?
Just so it's clear, my question is:
Do you support a reduction in company profit sharing in order to gain an hourly pay rate increase when we negotiate Contract 2015?
Thanks for your insights and I'm curious of your thoughts.
08-18-2014, 04:52 PM
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08-18-2014, 05:28 PM
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08-18-2014, 05:34 PM
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Tough times indeed for the
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08-18-2014, 05:34 PM
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But that's just me. Others may be more risk averse and prefer the certainty of a higher fixed pay rate. The trick, though, is to ensure that you're not mistaking the pay that you've bought with your profit sharing for an actual increase in compensation.
08-18-2014, 05:38 PM
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08-18-2014, 05:42 PM
Straight QOL, homie
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His whole life revolves around wearing his LCA lanyard, consuming free muffins and kool-aid at LCA meetings, and bloviating at high volume here on APCF. He's like a clown on fire; kinda funny, kinda sad.
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