Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-17-2014, 06:52 PM
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It's certainly not meaningless- saying that is hyperbole. I believe it to be significant that his mind was changed like that. You know as well as I do how horrible and agenda driven reporters can be, and pulling a couple snippets out of a 45 minute conversation can be colored a wide range of ways.
You know how much I dislike Moak, but I'm willing to admit that I was wrong when I was wrong.
You know how much I dislike Moak, but I'm willing to admit that I was wrong when I was wrong.
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08-17-2014, 06:54 PM
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Lets see:
How many pilot groups are in mediation? Plenty!
Does it prove wise to state that their bargaining positions are anything but rational? Nope.
Would or could it hurt their progress and eventually ours if the President of ALPA made any statements that would make it sound like we are anything but rational? Nope
Do you think Linda reads Business Week? Yep.
How much does the contract history state our cost per seat mile is?
What sort of raise would we get if we went to 2.00-2.05 lead to?
Might be surprised at those answers.
08-17-2014, 06:54 PM
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It's not the least bit of hyperbole Clamp and you know it. If Moak didn't mean what was attributed to him by Bloomberg, then let him change ALL of our minds with the same explanation he gave Erdude32. You can't possibly be saying that you're OK with what Moak said now that a Facebook friend tells you what Moak said.
Carl
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It was enough to take me from hardcore against Moak to standing a more middle ground.
08-17-2014, 06:55 PM
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It's not the least bit of hyperbole Clamp and you know it. If Moak didn't mean what was attributed to him by Bloomberg, then let him change ALL of our minds with the same explanation he gave Erdude32. You can't possibly be saying that you're OK with what Moak said now that a Facebook friend tells you what Moak said.
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08-17-2014, 06:59 PM
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Question.
How are new hires and probationary pilots handled in regards to DPA and/or DALPA? We were talked to by DALPA, but no mention of DPA. Are new hires and probationary pilots off limits from DPA?
How are new hires and probationary pilots handled in regards to DPA and/or DALPA? We were talked to by DALPA, but no mention of DPA. Are new hires and probationary pilots off limits from DPA?
08-17-2014, 07:03 PM
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You can seek them out and put in a card if you like, though.
08-17-2014, 07:07 PM
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Somebody else probably has more first hand knowledge about this subject than I do. Basically, as I understand it, DALPA has access to new hires because they officially represent us. DPA doesn't have that kind of access.
I've flown with several new hires who have asked me about DPA. My advice to them is to stay away from it publicly. The company is VERY pro DALPA and takes a very dim view of anyone who doesn't support DALPA. And why wouldn't they? DALPA has helped them drastically cut pilot costs and keep those costs drastically cut for almost a decade now!
My advice is that I don't think DPA is something a new hire needs to get too closely associated with while still on probation.
08-17-2014, 07:34 PM
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I think there's a website a NW pilot did on that looks at our seniority via base and fleet. I think its EZ....? Does anyone know?
08-17-2014, 07:43 PM
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Yada yada yada. Over.
08-17-2014, 08:07 PM
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