Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-17-2014, 08:01 AM
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The assumption is if you don't check it from 1500-2359, fine, but you need to check it by 0000. Of course we no longer have to notify of anything, which was a massive concession IMO. Its unprecedented that we are considered notified now upon first voicemail attempted contact. That was an earth shattering giveaway that will remain forever, long after the higher duty period average goes away during the next crisis or whatever.
I think the company will usually try and notify you, but the logic behind the concessions we gave was that since you can go NORAD for any 10 consecutive hours you want if you haven't got an assignment by then, we shifted the burden of notification to us.
I think the company will usually try and notify you, but the logic behind the concessions we gave was that since you can go NORAD for any 10 consecutive hours you want if you haven't got an assignment by then, we shifted the burden of notification to us.
Any other reserve assignment continues to require notification by telephone, unless it is placed on our line prior to block in from our previous rotation.
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08-17-2014, 08:19 AM
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While we may well have exchanged openers by then, I can't imagine that we'll be anywhere close to being through Section 6, and so the two issues can remain completely separate, as they should be.
08-17-2014, 08:24 AM
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Numerous discussions with my reps have led me to believe that, while achieving consensus can in fact be quite a cumbersome process, it is quite possible and always worthwhile in the end. And the alternative, that of a dictatorship, is never preferable.
So yes. As with any democracy, there are layers to wade through and you have to be able to bring others around to your point of view to have that perspective carry the day.
I consider that neither BS nor getting nowhere. It is what it is. We can either sit behind our keyboards and wish it were different, or we can stand up and get into the game as our reps have done.
So yes. As with any democracy, there are layers to wade through and you have to be able to bring others around to your point of view to have that perspective carry the day.
I consider that neither BS nor getting nowhere. It is what it is. We can either sit behind our keyboards and wish it were different, or we can stand up and get into the game as our reps have done.
08-17-2014, 08:25 AM
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Democracy is one of the worst forms of government, it gives rise to factions, and the loss of individual rights. The alternative is not dictatorship, however, a constitution that protects the rights of the union worker. The basic right being, that a union worker should not be able to vote another union worker out of a job.
08-17-2014, 08:30 AM
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I can't find historical data on green slips going back more than a few months. In Sep, for the first time since May, we have positive reserves for more than half the days of the month in the NYC 7ERB. Does this mean the chances of a relatively junior guy getting a GS are slim to none?
08-17-2014, 08:39 AM
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I do not. IMO, the MEC should file a grievance on April 1, 2015 and concurrently request expedited arbitration under Section 1 M. This requires that the arbitration be completed within 60 days of filing, i.e., by May 31, and that the Board render its decision within 90 days of filing, i.e., by June 30.
While we may well have exchanged openers by then, I can't imagine that we'll be anywhere close to being through Section 6, and so the two issues can remain completely separate, as they should be.
While we may well have exchanged openers by then, I can't imagine that we'll be anywhere close to being through Section 6, and so the two issues can remain completely separate, as they should be.
Maybe we should approach the company now regarding the compliance issue and see how that "proactive engagement" works for us.
08-17-2014, 08:44 AM
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Right? I have to assume that such discussions have already taken place, but that nothing's come of it. RA will never willingly operate a route on which he cannot make money, so I'm guessing that they've told us to pack sand and that they expect to see us before the arbitrator.
08-17-2014, 09:06 AM
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The only "self-notification" is for a trip or short call that they place on our line by 1500 on our last X-day. Any other time still requires a phone call from scheduling.
And a reserve pilot no longer has the requirement to acknowledge a trip or short call that's been placed on his line.
And a reserve pilot no longer has the requirement to acknowledge a trip or short call that's been placed on his line.
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08-17-2014, 09:18 AM
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08-17-2014, 09:27 AM
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