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Old 08-17-2014, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Tsquare hugged her.
Yes.... yes I did.

"And they are spectacular."
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Old 08-17-2014, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I'm out mountain biking and I come upon this cabin with this very girl out front getting water from a well, but there's this half-blind toothless guy on the porch with a banjo. The girl comes up to me and showing great interest with these innocent yet somehow sexy (in a trashy way) eyes asks me to stay for dinner.

What should I do?
How desperate are you?
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Old 08-17-2014, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I'm out mountain biking and I come upon this cabin with this very girl out front getting water from a well, but there's this half-blind toothless guy on the porch with a banjo. The girl comes up to me and showing great interest with these innocent yet somehow sexy (in a trashy way) eyes asks me to stay for dinner.

What should I do?
What are they having for dinner?
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
...my confidence in ALPA is zero.
That being the case, I certainly hope that you are working to remove your reps from office ASAP, or at least in the next election cycle, and replacing them with those of your fellow pilots (maybe you?) whom you do trust.

The part of ALPA that deals directly with our negotiations and contract enforcement is nothing more and nothing less than those whom we elect to represent us and those whom they then in turn select to do the heavy lifting on our behalf.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
How about some inflation-adjusted comparisons? Why the sandbagging?
I disagree that leaving out the CPI index or some other rate of inflation amounts to sandbagging. None of the other financial metrics shown in the contract history were adjusted for inflation. Further, I am quite capable of adjusting any of those metrics myself in any way I choose.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
That being the case, I certainly hope that you are working to remove your reps from office ASAP, or at least in the next election cycle, and replacing them with those of your fellow pilots (maybe you?) whom you do trust.

The part of ALPA that deals directly with our negotiations and contract enforcement is nothing more and nothing less than those whom we elect to represent us and those whom they then in turn select to do the heavy lifting on our behalf.
I've gone this route before, and all ALPA does is bury you in layers of bureaucratic BS. You basically have to run a political campaign to get anywhere, and good luck with that, because usually, the only people who vote, are the ALPA status quo supporters.

So round and round we go, getting nowhere.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Didn't we go to "self notification" with the new LOA? They will just put it on your schedule and it is up to you to check and ACK the trip.
The only "self-notification" is for a trip or short call that they place on our line by 1500 on our last X-day. Any other time still requires a phone call from scheduling.

And a reserve pilot no longer has the requirement to acknowledge a trip or short call that's been placed on his line.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
I disagree that leaving out the CPI index or some other rate of inflation amounts to sandbagging. None of the other financial metrics shown in the contract history were adjusted for inflation. Further, I am quite capable of adjusting any of those metrics myself in any way I choose.
Why wouldn't DALPA be doing everything in its power to highlight the loss of buying power since BK?

That whole "shaping the battlefield" thing.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I've gone this route before, and all ALPA does is bury you in layers of bureaucratic BS. You basically have to run a political campaign to get anywhere, and good luck with that, because usually, the only people who vote, are the ALPA status quo supporters.

So round and round we go, getting nowhere.
Numerous discussions with my reps have led me to believe that, while achieving consensus can in fact be quite a cumbersome process, it is quite possible and always worthwhile in the end. And the alternative, that of a dictatorship, is never preferable.

So yes. As with any democracy, there are layers to wade through and you have to be able to bring others around to your point of view to have that perspective carry the day.

I consider that neither BS nor getting nowhere. It is what it is. We can either sit behind our keyboards and wish it were different, or we can stand up and get into the game as our reps have done.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Why wouldn't DALPA be doing everything in its power to highlight the loss of buying power since BK?
Perhaps they're wanting at this point simply to give us objective facts from which we can draw our own conclusions?
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