Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-11-2014, 03:40 PM
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
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To all my fellow APCer's: I just put in my last bid as a DL pilot, Sept is my retirement date. Me and 6 other retiring 777 Captains are throwing a huge retirement party in ATL Oct 24th that could go down in history. Open bar,catered, live entertainment and transportation to from parking.
Timbo, Scambo and all ATL 777 pilots are already on the invite list. FTB, 80, Newk,Carl, Alpha, Sailing, Alan,Jughead,Bar,T,Jesse, et al. please consider yourselves invited. We are sending out a save the date around the 20th of Aug and then invites early Sept so people can bid around it. This will be RSVP due to the cost involved but we're planning on last minute arrivals. This party is with significant others and even RA is on the list so please don't be shy or worry that you won't know anyone. I have enjoyed all the conversations on the Latest and Greatest and figure this would be a great excuse to get together as many APCer's as possible. If you are interested please pm me your contact info and I will add you to my list.
The retiree's involved are; Ron Norris, Paul Faulkner, Marc Lugash, Gene Robinson, Warren Zatazalo and myself Ross Campbell. There are 3 others that are considering joining as of this time but not yet committed.
Timbo, Scambo and all ATL 777 pilots are already on the invite list. FTB, 80, Newk,Carl, Alpha, Sailing, Alan,Jughead,Bar,T,Jesse, et al. please consider yourselves invited. We are sending out a save the date around the 20th of Aug and then invites early Sept so people can bid around it. This will be RSVP due to the cost involved but we're planning on last minute arrivals. This party is with significant others and even RA is on the list so please don't be shy or worry that you won't know anyone. I have enjoyed all the conversations on the Latest and Greatest and figure this would be a great excuse to get together as many APCer's as possible. If you are interested please pm me your contact info and I will add you to my list.
The retiree's involved are; Ron Norris, Paul Faulkner, Marc Lugash, Gene Robinson, Warren Zatazalo and myself Ross Campbell. There are 3 others that are considering joining as of this time but not yet committed.
08-11-2014, 03:41 PM
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08-11-2014, 03:45 PM
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
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Remember how all the flight control computers shut down on 01/01/2000?
And you KNOW the world is going to end on 12/12/2012, right?!
And we'll never see those two 3% raises because RA is going to need to renegotiate asap, because we are going to buy American's Miami operations and re-open DFW!
Oh...wait.
08-11-2014, 04:26 PM
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Well yeahbut...
Remember how all the flight control computers shut down on 01/01/2000?
And you KNOW the world is going to end on 12/12/2012, right?!
And we'll never see those two 3% raises because RA is going to need to renegotiate asap, because we are going to buy American's Miami operations and re-open DFW!
Oh...wait.
Remember how all the flight control computers shut down on 01/01/2000?
And you KNOW the world is going to end on 12/12/2012, right?!
And we'll never see those two 3% raises because RA is going to need to renegotiate asap, because we are going to buy American's Miami operations and re-open DFW!
Oh...wait.
08-11-2014, 04:42 PM
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: DAL FO
Posts: 2,169
Here is a post from about a week ago on the topic:
Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Shadow is the amount of time the company is estimating you will be done with the sim, but not yet OE'd, therefore unqualified to actually fly a trip.
The general gouge is cram as many trips or RSV days into your shadow period as possible. Any trips awarded in your shadow period will be put on your line for construction purposes, and then immediately put back into the pot, to be awarded to someone junior to you (or left in open time.) In short, you will get paid to not fly these trips. If/when they call you for OE and it falls within your shadow period, then you will receive the greater of the trip you fly or the one they dropped.
Use something like:
AWARD Trips IF Depart on SEP 4 - SEP 14
Then do the rest of your bid...
Hopefully a good majority of your trips will be awarded during this period. Same strategy applies for RSV bidding.
The pay stacks on top if they don't get to you, and you end up doing your OE on days off after the shadow. I bid max credit in April and got a ~80 line. All of the trips touched the shadow and were dropped/paid (thanks FAR 117.)
Then I ended up doing OE near the end of the month on days off resulting in 110+ hours of pay for flying 2 3-day trips! It definitely pays to stack your days off after the shadow and then "volunteer" with the OE planner to do your OE AFTER the shadow.
This was when they were backed up on the 717 in the winter/early spring so YMMV. Happy Bidding.
Shadow is the amount of time the company is estimating you will be done with the sim, but not yet OE'd, therefore unqualified to actually fly a trip.
The general gouge is cram as many trips or RSV days into your shadow period as possible. Any trips awarded in your shadow period will be put on your line for construction purposes, and then immediately put back into the pot, to be awarded to someone junior to you (or left in open time.) In short, you will get paid to not fly these trips. If/when they call you for OE and it falls within your shadow period, then you will receive the greater of the trip you fly or the one they dropped.
Use something like:
AWARD Trips IF Depart on SEP 4 - SEP 14
Then do the rest of your bid...
Hopefully a good majority of your trips will be awarded during this period. Same strategy applies for RSV bidding.
The pay stacks on top if they don't get to you, and you end up doing your OE on days off after the shadow. I bid max credit in April and got a ~80 line. All of the trips touched the shadow and were dropped/paid (thanks FAR 117.)
Then I ended up doing OE near the end of the month on days off resulting in 110+ hours of pay for flying 2 3-day trips! It definitely pays to stack your days off after the shadow and then "volunteer" with the OE planner to do your OE AFTER the shadow.
This was when they were backed up on the 717 in the winter/early spring so YMMV. Happy Bidding.
08-11-2014, 04:54 PM
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,113
Congrats, finis. It's also always a pleasure reading you on APC.
08-11-2014, 04:56 PM
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 70
Can anyone tell me what the product is that ties into iCrew and provides a line-up card for each leg of a rotation (with frequencies, times, etc)? I think it is put out by FlightLine Services or EasyBid, but I can't find any info about it online.
Thanks in advance -
Thanks in advance -
08-11-2014, 04:58 PM
At home on the maddog!
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ATL MD-88A
Posts: 2,874
Congrats, finis. Even though you and I rarely agree, I remember you going out of your way to be nice to me several times here. I wish you all the best in retirement! 
08-11-2014, 04:59 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: ATL717A
Posts: 890
Finis - Congrats! Enjoy doing nothing.
08-11-2014, 05:02 PM
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
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Posts: 23,286
finis72 congratulations!
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