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Old 08-07-2014, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Oberon
Bank deadheads for what? You already have unlimited positive space deviate from deadheads. For commuting?
I believe that's what he means. Fedex or UPS have a similar system.

The idea is that by saving the company a scheduled DH, he should be able to "bank" it for further use.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
I believe that's what he means. Fedex or UPS have a similar system.

The idea is that by saving the company a scheduled DH, he should be able to "bank" it for further use.
More positive space always seems like a good idea until you have to non-rev somewhere. He's right, as someone who chooses to live in base, I don't like that idea.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by flyerc90
warning: they benefit only commuters.....so i will probably get flamed for choosing to be a commuter.

a) i want our 2hr commute into shortcall back, that we lost in the recent LOA
b) I want to be able to bank all of the positive space deadhead deviations that I dont use (like if i finish a rsv trip in sayyyy STL, and take SWA straight back to MCO instead of using the company dhd to ATL)
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More positive space always seems like a good idea until you have to non-rev somewhere. He's right, as someone who chooses to live in base, I don't like that idea.
I'm a commuter, and I understand your position. Personally, I wouldn't argue for that one either.

But the first one (a), I would hope has support from non-commuters as well. Why we lost this from our PWA I don't know. For me, if I'm commuting to reserve I'm not going to be available any sooner than 2 hours after my SC starts anyway. I hope this gets put forth (even though I'm no longer doing reserve). It helps those who are junior in category and can save pilots some money and time away from family without harming anyone.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:38 AM
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Just did the DenyNAI tweet on the ALPA website. Only takes a minute to make a difference in your career.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Oberon
More positive space always seems like a good idea until you have to non-rev somewhere. He's right, as someone who chooses to live in base, I don't like that idea.
But you would (could) benefit equally, were you to bid a trip that begins or ends with a deadhead and then deviate from that deadhead without using the PS pass.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:57 AM
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Just did the DenyNAI tweet on the ALPA website. Only takes a minute to make a difference in your career.
Thanks for the tip. Done. Tweeted my rep and senators as well.
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
I'm a commuter, and I understand your position. Personally, I wouldn't argue for that one either.

But the first one (a), I would hope has support from non-commuters as well. Why we lost this from our PWA I don't know. For me, if I'm commuting to reserve I'm not going to be available any sooner than 2 hours after my SC starts anyway. I hope this gets put forth (even though I'm no longer doing reserve). It helps those who are junior in category and can save pilots some money and time away from family without harming anyone.
Unofficially you can still do the same thing you do before the LOA regarding the 2 hour commute to SC deal. Just monitor icrew on your commute into SC and if they tag you with a trip you can acknowledge it while enroute to your base. Whats the difference?
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
Unofficially you can still do the same thing you do before the LOA regarding the 2 hour commute to SC deal. Just monitor icrew on your commute into SC and if they tag you with a trip you can acknowledge it while enroute to your base. Whats the difference?


Since I'm not on reserve I hadn't thought of that. (just hope wifi is working)

Good interim measure, but still worth putting the idea forward, IMO.
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
But you would (could) benefit equally, were you to bid a trip that begins or ends with a deadhead and then deviate from that deadhead without using the PS pass.
On first glance I think I agree with this. It's a zero sum deal, where one PS comes out of the system to be used later.

Not a commuter (anymore) but I think this could be really useful for a lot of pilots - taking the stress down and improving QOL.
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
On first glance I think I agree with this. It's a zero sum deal, where one PS comes out of the system to be used later.

Not a commuter (anymore) but I think this could be really useful for a lot of pilots - taking the stress down and improving QOL.
I agree. As long as you present it as cost neutral to the company they might consider it. However, the devil is always in the details. For example, if you took SWA STL-MCO such as in the example listed, how far in advance do you need to inform the company you won't be using their PS dh? If you kept the dh on your line and only cnx'd after you successfully got on the SWA flight, that doesn't do the company much good. That seat wasn't available for sale until the last minute. However, if you cancelled a week out or so, that would make a difference.
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