Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
#1641
The current fleet plans have the Delta fleet remaining basically static in size and they plan to hire because narrow bodies are being parked but 777's are coming onboard. The NWA fleet is shrinking every week. I am told that looking at the numbers NWA will have a pilot surplus for a period of time next year. If they will furlough, carry the excess or move pilots to the Delta side is a unknown and being looked at as we speak. There are still varibles such as how many NWA pilots take the early outs. At the moment however on paper there will be a surplus at NWA. I doubt you will see any furloughs but you may see some pilots flying on the Delta side before SOC.
Currently for December there are 4929 required positions. By the end of this month there will around 5100 or less pilots on the list. Also retirements will continue each month bringing our numbers down even more.) The difference between 4929 and 5100 isnt an overstaffing since the 5100 total pilots includes all pilots on Medical leave, Long term sick, voluntary furlough, military, mgmt, etc.
Sure there are variables are how many more will leave before DCC but the facts are last month 115 people applied for PERPs during the 30 day period and ONLY 50 were awarded by the company for whatever reason and that was just for the narrowbody guys.
Last edited by Superpilot92; 08-27-2008 at 06:57 AM.
#1642
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SuperPilot, Please post the number of aircraft in NWA's fleet as of 1 Jan 08. Now post the planned number as of 1 Jan 09 and 1 Jan 10. The info I posted came from someone involved in the process of determining how many pilots to hire and how to handle the requirements of both airlines. He stated NWA anticipates a surplus of pilots. Why would they be offering the early outs if they did not? This is not rocket science. Its simple numbers. The surplus is expected to be tempory while NWA transitions to the new contract. That will take time however. If enough early outs as I mention occur that could offset the surplus.
#1643
SuperPilot, Please post the number of aircraft in NWA's fleet as of 1 Jan 08. Now post the planned number as of 1 Jan 09 and 1 Jan 10. The info I posted came from someone involved in the process of determining how many pilots to hire and how to handle the requirements of both airlines. He stated NWA anticipates a surplus of pilots. Why would they be offering the early outs if they did not? This is not rocket science. Its simple numbers. The surplus is expected to be temporary while NWA transitions to the new contract. That will take time however. If enough early outs as I mention occur that could offset the surplus.
Bottom line everything right now is speculation for 2009. Alot will change once this merger is finalized, especially when NWA is brought up to the DAL staffing models. That by itself would require us to hire.
#1644
FWIW, I think that the JPWA states that NWA does not need to be in compliance with DAL's PBS staffing model for 36 months.
#1647
Fact is that both companies are over staffed. DAL is overstaffed by about 500 pilots. With all of the training and what not going on it is easier to keep everyone around in the winter months.
#1648
Does that take into consideration the rest of the 737's and 777 that have yet to be staffed as they come?
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