GogglesPisano

777-300LR's are the only real replacement for the 747's. Unless, of course, you consider codesharing as a replacement.

If they displace 1/4 of our 747 pilots next year (barring an early-out program) there will be a massive downward bid tempered only a little by the 330 deliveries. Any aircraft we order in October will take at least 2-3 years to materialize.

So we've got that going for us ...

Carl Spackler

I understand your anger Starcheck. Your bread is likely being buttered by working in the ALPA PAC and here I am shining light on what you guys do.

You weren't unfair to count incumbents, you were just trying to hide what the record is on non-incumbents.

Indeed. Makes you wonder why ALPA endorsed Obama when now we see Obama strongly supporting the Export/Import Bank and trying to shame the Republicans for wanting it scrapped. That's what happens when you knee-jerk support the far left without thinking.

Yeah...I'll let the numbers speak for themselves:

This is from the list of non-incumbents to which ALPA PAC supported financially for candidates to win House and Senate seats:

2007-2008: Democrats 21...Republicsns 0

2009-2010: Democrats 24...Republicans 3

2011-2012: Democrats 40...Republicans 5

2013-2014: Democrats 21...Republicans 1


Carl

Carl Spackler

Management sure considers code share a great replacement for the 747's. But I've been told by senior level management that the 777-300LR/ER is also much too big an airplane for their new NRT de-hubbing strategy.

Carl

forgot to bid

But what's the cost difference?

cencal83406

Why aren't there many Republicans that support us? That should be just a big of a red flag...

Carl Spackler

Obama, Reid and Pelosi are strongly supporting the Export/Import Bank and are actively shaming Republicans who want to scrap the Ex/Im Bank. I'd say that's a very big issue that shows Republicans supporting our wishes, wouldn't you?

Carl

Mesabah

I paid about $9K per year, it is now $35K per year.

ERAU is now $250K minimum for a flight degree.

To top it all off, youtube is a vastly superior educational resource than college.

cencal83406

True. However, one of our newest conversative, "pilot partisan" advocates, Rep Kinzinger (R-IL), who I might add supports #denyNAI, is fully in favor of the Ex-Im bank. That's just his opinion, man.

It goes to show you'll never get a "perfectly molded" candidate for all of our issues. But all we can do is try to talk to *everyone* on the Hill (not just the D's, not just the R's), and ask them to support our issues and be able to provide them with well-thought-out reasoning.

I *wish* I could find more balance on the hill so that I could have the trust of the pilots I try to convince that ALPA PAC is a good idea.

^not currently a Legislative Affairs Rep, but was one

FWIW.

firstmob

Most of our competitors are growing and we are shrinking. I sure hope there is something else coming down the pike.

Carl Spackler

No worries. Since he ran as a republican, there was no ALPA PAC support whatsoever when he was elected in 2011.

No, it goes to show you that ALPA PAC very rarely supports a republican when that republican is trying to unseat a democrat incumbent.

It's not a lack of balance on the hill that prevented the trust you sought amongst your member pilots, it's the lack of balance within the ALPA PAC that fosters the mistrust. Just look at these numbers on how ALPA PAC supports new congressional candidates:

2007-2008: Democrats 21...Republicans 0
2009-2010: Democrats 24...Republicans 3
2011-2012: Democrats 40...Republicans 5
2013-2014: Democrats 21...Republicans 1

This very clearly shows the mindset of how ALPA PAC would like to see the congress trend. It's what prevents me from sending money to you. When I see those contributions for Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, then the endorsement of Obama, it's clear the PAC's views and my views couldn't be farther apart. Sure glad to see these "pilot partisans" supporting us against the Export/Import Bank...right?

Carl