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08-03-2014, 08:12 AM

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newKnow

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Originally Posted by tsquare

I am surprised that the leftists point to the stock market as a tribute to their boy. Isn't it the evil Wall Street that they want to topple? Evil McDOnalds that won't pay $15/hour to flip burgers? Isn't it the institutional investors... you know.. the Koch Brothers and the like that are manipulating the market for their own personal gain? Allegedly. The 1%ers that are so vile that they must be crushed at any and all costs? No.. THAT doesn't define the policies of an administration. The stock market rise is based on the fact that the economy has floundered for a long time and the corporations within it have cut as much fat as is necessary to bolster earnings in the current times. It is all baked into the market at this point. However, there is growing concern that valuations are getting too high. Maybe THAT would account for the implosion of the last week. Maybe not. The market is fickle.

I was only saying that the economy was better. I don't care who gets the blame, or credit.

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Originally Posted by newKnow

I think this 2104 economy is way better than what we had in 2008.

Those are just a few of the differences that can be attributed to either party, or Administration. Give President Bush the credit for it, if you want to. Give Clinton, or Obama the blame. Who cares? This economy is better though.

08-03-2014, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tsquare

What is not fickle is the fact that there are more middle class Americans on food stamps that at any time in our history. We have a rising debt and deficit that neither the Congress (BOTH parties) nor the WH, (1 party) seem to give a tinker's dam about. THOSE policies lie right at the feet of the current occupant that has decided to phone it in for the last 2 years. Not GWB. Not Bill. Not Reagan.

The defict is actually shrinking and has been doing so every year since 2011. It's just about half of what it was in 2010.

08-03-2014, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tsquare

And pelosi reid.. reid specifically is largely to blame for the majority of the ills we now have. More so than Barry, because he won't even bring things to a vote he knows BO wont sign off on... That man is cholesterol in the US Congress

This is how I responded before:

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Originally Posted by newKnow

At this point, you blaming Pelosi & Reid is just as bad as anyone on the Left blaming Bush for anything.

08-03-2014, 08:36 AM

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newKnow

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Originally Posted by tsquare

Stella's fine, but I prefer Guiness.... I mean good ol' American Budweiser... wait.. that's owned by a foreign corporation... um... Yeungleng? (or however the hell you spell it)

It's funny to me that the funniest guy on here does't drink. (FTB)

Imagine how he would be if we got him to drink a beer.

08-03-2014, 08:47 AM

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Starcheck102

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Accepted. I truly wasn't trying to be offensive when I discussed this, just truthful.

That would be a good strategy, but that's NOT our strategy. Our strategy is a left wing supportive strategy, as evidenced by my post below:
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
This is from the list of non-incumbents to which ALPA PAC supported financially for candidates to win House and Senate seats:

2007-2008: Democrats 21...Republicsns 0

2009-2010: Democrats 24...Republicans 3

2011-2012: Democrats 40...Republicans 5

2013-2014: Democrats 21...Republicans 1

Just sayin.

Carl

Where did you get your numbers? They aren't even close.

Here are just the ones in the Senate from last year:

AR – Mark Pryor (D) 
AK – Mark Begich (D)
AK - Lisa Murkowski (R)
 CA – Barbara Boxer (D)
 CT – Richard Blumenthal (D) 
CO – Michael Bennet (D) 
CO – Mark Udall (D) 
DE – Chris Coons (D)
 DE - Tom Carper (D)
 GA – Johnny Isakson (R)
 HI – Mazie Hirono (D
) HI – Brian Schatz (D)
 IL – Dick Durbin (D)
 IL – Mark Kirk (R)
 IN – Daniel Coats (R)
 KS – Jerry Moran (R)
 LA – Mary Landrieu (D)
 MA – Ed Markey (D) 
MD – Ben Cardin (D)
 MD – Barbara Mikulski (D) 
ME – Susan Collins (R)
 MN – Al Franken (D)
 MN – Amy Klobuchar (D)
 MO – Claire McCaskill (D)
 MS – Thad Cochran (R)
 NC – Kay Hagan (D) 
NE – Deb Fischer (R)
 NH – Kelly Ayotte (R)
 NH – Jeanne Shaheen (D)
 NM – Marin Heinrich (D)
 NM – Tom Udall (D)
 NV – Harry Reid (D)
 NY – Chuck Schumer (D)
 NY – Kristen Gillibrand (D)
 OH - Sherrod Brown (D)
 OH - Rob Portman (R)
 OK - Jim Inhofe (R)
 PA – Pat Toomey (R
) RI – Jack Reed (D) 
SC – Tim Scott (R)
 SC – Lindsey Graham (R)
 SD – John Thune (R)
 VA – Mark Warner (D) 
WA – Patty Murray (D)
 WV - Joe Manchin (D)
 WY – Mike Enzi (R)

I don't suppose this changes your mind? I could always post the House list too, but it is much bigger.

The defense rests.

08-03-2014, 08:47 AM

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orvil

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Originally Posted by Hillbilly

According to the last paragraph of Moak's statement on page 5 of the July 2014 Air Line Pilot magazine, "As I'm sure you've heard, I've made the decision to end my presidential term at the close of this cycle." I take that to mean he's not going to run, but it's not like we haven't all heard that line before.

Okay, I'm taking bets. Three choices: One, He goes on to be a "consultant" in DC; two, he returns to the line and flies with the swine; three, he reluctantly accepts the overwhelming demand for his unique talents and allows his name to be proposed as MEC Chairman, again.