Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-02-2014, 08:48 AM
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Also telling, I gave a speech to the annual Vietnam POW reunion. 300+ POWs and their families. John McCain did not attend. When I was signing books I asked several of them about him, they don't respect him or embrace him as one of their own. Don't know what happened in Hanoi and don't want to speculate but those heroes don't like him either.
08-02-2014, 08:50 AM
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777 ultra long trips are pretty appealing to me. I know we are talking about 744's, but the idea of trading longer trips for shorter trips is a QOL reduction in my view regardless of pay.
08-02-2014, 08:51 AM
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Here's the key point: IT WOULDN'T BE STOPPING COMMERECE. The company could decide at its sole discretion which routes they wanted to fly, and which they did not. Ending the JV would simply mean that Delta pilots would figure into management's equation on the commerece that management decides to pursue.
How you can say that doesn't help Delta pilots is beyond me.
Carl
How you can say that doesn't help Delta pilots is beyond me.
Carl
08-02-2014, 08:52 AM
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Thanks. I think I'm conflating big with long.
08-02-2014, 08:54 AM
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Here's the key point: IT WOULDN'T BE STOPPING COMMERECE. The company could decide at its sole discretion which routes they wanted to fly, and which they did not. Ending the JV would simply mean that Delta pilots would figure into management's equation on the commerece that management decides to pursue.
How you can say that doesn't help Delta pilots is beyond me.
Carl
How you can say that doesn't help Delta pilots is beyond me.
Carl
I think the point is moot since I don't think an arbitrator would end the JV and I'm certain Delta wouldn't willingly give it up. The company is presumably a few percentage points out of compliance. I doubt an arbitrator would be on board to grenade something that is already agreed to in principle over a small percentage. Again, the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
08-02-2014, 09:04 AM
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Even if you could get past the near impossibility of how you would realistically transition to your longevity based pay system, it ignores what I think would be a devastating impact on jobs. Specifically, it would incentivize the company to buy larger aircraft since we would have taken pay based on revenue production out of the equation. Further, it would make our smaller aircraft relatively more expensive to operate thus putting more pressure on outsourcing the bottom end. These two points add a compounding effect to job destruction.
With our current system, we are seeing a reduction in large aircraft which means pilots will be displaced to lower paying positions. I get that. But it's requiring more jobs. If I had to choose between higher pay for fewer jobs, or slightly lower pay for many more jobs...I choose the latter.
Carl
With our current system, we are seeing a reduction in large aircraft which means pilots will be displaced to lower paying positions. I get that. But it's requiring more jobs. If I had to choose between higher pay for fewer jobs, or slightly lower pay for many more jobs...I choose the latter.
Carl
And since it appears that you haven't been paying attention, where on earth do you think they are going to outsource bottom end flying to? Endeavor is losing 40 captains/month, and getting 3 replacements if they are lucky. Pay attention Carl.. Good grief.
The only thing you said in the entire missive above that I agree with it highlighted. Other than that...
08-02-2014, 09:13 AM
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Want to start with immigration, or education? Or perhaps we could discuss the thousands of pages of onerous regulation that this administration has foisted upon business in the name of "green" energy (for start). Sweeping back the ocean in terms of benefit that stuff is, and the only ones paying the price are the American taxpayer and workers. And the abysmal, poorly thought and hastily enacted "A"CA... Then there's the foreign policy debacles....
Decades to undo the damage.
Decades to undo the damage.
08-02-2014, 09:15 AM
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Let's just say it's TOTD every time.
08-02-2014, 09:17 AM
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Yup... Too bad it will never happen though... Too many scumbag lawyers would be out of work
08-02-2014, 09:36 AM
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There is no money in 4 engined aircraft. Except for every foreign carrier under the sun. And United. And all the cargo oprators. But there's no money in cargo either.
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