Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-01-2014, 12:39 PM
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Well, Obama is giving a news conference now. He's specifically shaming House Republicans into letting the Export Import Bank continue as it has. He says he doesn't understand why those House Republicans would be opposing the Export Import Bank when that bank does so much good for American jobs.
So glad ALPA national and the AFL-CIO fought so hard for Obama (twice) and fought so hard against republicans.
Back the PAC!
Carl
So glad ALPA national and the AFL-CIO fought so hard for Obama (twice) and fought so hard against republicans.
Back the PAC!
Carl
I could give a rat about the AFL-CIO - they don't pay dues. You pay dues, so I hope you will check the facts on this for yourself.
This is just one of several occasions when Barry has tossed American pilots under the bus. The highlights include whatever devil's bargain he made with the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, and what he directed to happen at OMB during the endgame of FAR 117.
And now this. I must say his actions make it impossible to support him as an airline pilot. I have no confidence that he is actually on the side of organized labor.
You should retract your assertion. It is as false as it is offensive to the dozen-odd Delta pilots who work very hard on the Hill. The Pilot Partisan agenda is more than just a slogan to us, it represents the only way ALPA can stay relevant and avoid getting cornered in a very toxic political environment.
08-01-2014, 12:43 PM
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Ummmm OK, I'll bite. Just how do you propose "not granting relief" to upcomng displacements? Just not show up en masse for training when assigned? They can displace whomever they want, whenever they want. THEY buy the airplanes, and THEY deploy them. WE only fly them...
08-01-2014, 12:45 PM
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That is simply false. ALPA never endorsed Obama, does not endorse presidential candidates (thank GOD), and he received no money from ALPA PAC.
I could give a rat about the AFL-CIO - they don't pay dues. You pay dues, so I hope you will check the facts on this for yourself.
This is just one of several occasions when Barry has tossed American pilots under the bus. The highlights include whatever devil's bargain he made with the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, and what he directed to happen at OMB during the endgame of FAR 117.
And now this. I must say his actions make it impossible to support him as an airline pilot. I have no confidence that he is actually on the side of organized labor.
You should retract your assertion. It is as false as it is offensive to the dozen-odd Delta pilots who work very hard on the Hill. The Pilot Partisan agenda is more than just a slogan to us, it represents the only way ALPA can stay relevant and avoid getting cornered in a very toxic political environment.
I could give a rat about the AFL-CIO - they don't pay dues. You pay dues, so I hope you will check the facts on this for yourself.
This is just one of several occasions when Barry has tossed American pilots under the bus. The highlights include whatever devil's bargain he made with the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, and what he directed to happen at OMB during the endgame of FAR 117.
And now this. I must say his actions make it impossible to support him as an airline pilot. I have no confidence that he is actually on the side of organized labor.
You should retract your assertion. It is as false as it is offensive to the dozen-odd Delta pilots who work very hard on the Hill. The Pilot Partisan agenda is more than just a slogan to us, it represents the only way ALPA can stay relevant and avoid getting cornered in a very toxic political environment.
08-01-2014, 12:47 PM
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Casual Observer pretty much makes the argument, but I'll make my own version:
As you know, LBFM stands for "Little Brown ****ing Machine."
"Hooker" isn't racist. "Lady of the night" isn't racist. "Little Brown ****ing Machine" is racist because it (a) specifies two racial characteristics [stature and skin color] and (b) pairs them with a dehumanizing term [****ing machine].
Ask yourself, would you have been equally comfortable with someone writing that captains just wanted to get to Atlanta so they could see little black Sambo?
I'm sure those who use the term mean nothing by it. They probably picked it up before they became critical thinkers, and they've probably never been challenged on it before. But they wouldn't be pilots if they weren't smart. Upon further reflection, they'll come around.
As you know, LBFM stands for "Little Brown ****ing Machine."
"Hooker" isn't racist. "Lady of the night" isn't racist. "Little Brown ****ing Machine" is racist because it (a) specifies two racial characteristics [stature and skin color] and (b) pairs them with a dehumanizing term [****ing machine].
Ask yourself, would you have been equally comfortable with someone writing that captains just wanted to get to Atlanta so they could see little black Sambo?
I'm sure those who use the term mean nothing by it. They probably picked it up before they became critical thinkers, and they've probably never been challenged on it before. But they wouldn't be pilots if they weren't smart. Upon further reflection, they'll come around.
08-01-2014, 12:51 PM
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08-01-2014, 12:52 PM
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I'll be happy to answer all your race-related questions in PM, Gunship Guy.
08-01-2014, 12:56 PM
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I feel sheepish this morning. I made my point. Then, I let someone get under my skin, got angry (internet angry is both the worst and silliest kind of angry), and loosed a rhetorical flourish that destroyed my credibility.
That's some rookie forensics, right there.
That's some rookie forensics, right there.
08-01-2014, 12:59 PM
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Since I can't paste the exact words here, I'll paraphrase from page 2 of the Q & A, emphasis mine: '...notwithstanding reductions in trans-Atlantic growth plans, the combined JV trans-Atlantic network will grow this winter by 3 percent, though not as much originally planned.'
If it was Delta Air Lines that would be growing by 3% in the Atlantic, they would have said Delta Air Lines. Instead, they said "the JV Trans-Atlantic network." Further, they said the reductions in the Atlantic at Delta will free up those Delta aircraft to fly Pacific routes abandoned by the 744.
They couldn't have been more clear. Delta will be flying less Delta aircraft in the Atlantic. The JV network will grow by 3% in the Atlantic. This will widen our imbalance in the JV and it will occur during the "cure period" of our scope section.
Carl
If it was Delta Air Lines that would be growing by 3% in the Atlantic, they would have said Delta Air Lines. Instead, they said "the JV Trans-Atlantic network." Further, they said the reductions in the Atlantic at Delta will free up those Delta aircraft to fly Pacific routes abandoned by the 744.
They couldn't have been more clear. Delta will be flying less Delta aircraft in the Atlantic. The JV network will grow by 3% in the Atlantic. This will widen our imbalance in the JV and it will occur during the "cure period" of our scope section.
Carl
08-01-2014, 01:00 PM
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What's your position on that shiznit?
Carl
08-01-2014, 01:05 PM
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I feel sheepish this morning. I made my point. Then, I let someone get under my skin, got angry (internet angry is both the worst and silliest kind of angry), and loosed a rhetorical flourish that destroyed my credibility.
That's some rookie forensics, right there.
That's some rookie forensics, right there.
Carl
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