Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-01-2014, 07:35 AM
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Easily. I don't think there were but about 20 more age 65's happening in the remainder of this year, and that's off of all fleets. I just went to the DL Net to look at the category lists. As of Sept. 1 in the 747 category, there are 214 A's and 236 B's.
A 25% reduction means -53.5 A's and -59 B's; a loss of 112.5 top paying jobs.
I don't think an early retirement program is going to draw out 54 Capts. and 59 F/O's.
On DL Net you should read the 747 memo, as well as the Q+A's (link at bottom of story) about the sudden parking of 4 whales, and who's going to fly what/where.
Seems they are going to pull some 777's/A330's (Delta's jets) off the Atlantic routes and use them to cover the parked 747 flying in the Pacific. Guess who's going to pick up the Atlantic flying? Our JV partners. That's what they said...
So, how's that JV Compliance grievance coming?
A 25% reduction means -53.5 A's and -59 B's; a loss of 112.5 top paying jobs.
I don't think an early retirement program is going to draw out 54 Capts. and 59 F/O's.
On DL Net you should read the 747 memo, as well as the Q+A's (link at bottom of story) about the sudden parking of 4 whales, and who's going to fly what/where.
Seems they are going to pull some 777's/A330's (Delta's jets) off the Atlantic routes and use them to cover the parked 747 flying in the Pacific. Guess who's going to pick up the Atlantic flying? Our JV partners. That's what they said...
So, how's that JV Compliance grievance coming?
08-01-2014, 07:49 AM
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They know all they have to do is "engage the association".
Problem solved.
Look at history. Our scope clause is written in pencil.
08-01-2014, 07:51 AM
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Do you favor an early out that is not done by seniority?
Do you favor more concessions and getting nothing in return?
08-01-2014, 07:53 AM
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08-01-2014, 07:54 AM
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Just out of curiosity, what should be done if not to talk? What leverage do we have that will result in ANYTHING other than a scope sale?
08-01-2014, 07:56 AM
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I just read the question and answer from the company and the other letter. No where does it state what he said. In fact it states they plan a 3% increase in transatlantic flying this winter. That is a reduction from the original winter flight scheduled growth but the plan is still to increase flying. I have no idea where his statements in red came from unless there is a third letter buried in Delta net.
08-01-2014, 08:00 AM
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On DL Net you should read the 747 memo, as well as the Q+A's (link at bottom of story) about the sudden parking of 4 whales, and who's going to fly what/where.
Seems they are going to pull some 777's/A330's (Delta's jets) off the Atlantic routes and use them to cover the parked 747 flying in the Pacific. Guess who's going to pick up the Atlantic flying? Our JV partners. That's what they said...
So, how's that JV Compliance grievance coming?[/QUOTE]
The two documents you reference do not say that or anything close.
Seems they are going to pull some 777's/A330's (Delta's jets) off the Atlantic routes and use them to cover the parked 747 flying in the Pacific. Guess who's going to pick up the Atlantic flying? Our JV partners. That's what they said...
So, how's that JV Compliance grievance coming?[/QUOTE]
The two documents you reference do not say that or anything close.
08-01-2014, 08:02 AM
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Aren't you skipping some steps, like negotiations?
Are you assuming negotiations wouldn't be possible and successful? A weak penalty/punishment for violating terms and conditions the company wants is like no penalty at all. What's in it for the pilots? Just wondering...
DFW
Are you assuming negotiations wouldn't be possible and successful? A weak penalty/punishment for violating terms and conditions the company wants is like no penalty at all. What's in it for the pilots? Just wondering...
DFW
08-01-2014, 08:03 AM
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And Ed is quoted in the earnings call that they run the whole show, make all of the decisions. I know slam dunk grievances and unicorns live in the same universe, but this one has a horn and pink spots. The grievance should be filed the second it can be.
08-01-2014, 08:03 AM
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I don't know why everyone is so puzzled about how to solve this. There is no need for a scope sale. All you have to do is start pulling the Delta code off Air France and KLM flights. Stop selling tickets in violation of our contract production balance.
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