Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-30-2014, 06:19 PM
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I'm about half way up in ATL, I guess it'll depend on how many retire, vs. displace into the DTW 777, vs. displace into the ATL 777.
It sure ain't gonna' help!
I guess now we know why they haven't replaced the 17+ ATL 777 Capts. who have retired in the last 18mo. They'll have PLENTY 747 displacements coming in Jan, no doubt!
I wouldn't want to be the plug on it today, they are toast.
It sure ain't gonna' help!
I guess now we know why they haven't replaced the 17+ ATL 777 Capts. who have retired in the last 18mo. They'll have PLENTY 747 displacements coming in Jan, no doubt!
I wouldn't want to be the plug on it today, they are toast.
GF
07-30-2014, 06:29 PM
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07-30-2014, 06:39 PM
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This AE is a buzzkill.
07-30-2014, 06:48 PM
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Yup. As our widebody fleet slowly fades away, I would expect a Chairman's Letter pretty soon on why the international codesharing and joint venture agreements are still a good thing.
Its now become clear that the Pacific LOA was a complete surrender.
All it did was make sure the pull down in the Pacific is legal under the contract.
We should have grieved the Narita slots contract violation. At least we might have got some cash.
Let's face it. ALPA doesn't want any conflict or tension whatsoever. The real reason we have that LOA is so labor risk stays "off the table" at Delta Air Lines. Same pattern with the 117 thing and the Dickson memo. That was about as "in your face", "screw the contract" as management can get. Yet still no grievance.
My fear is that DALPA is going to do the same thing with the current AF/KLM contract violation. Just to preserve Moak's precious labor peace we are going to negotiate away our production balance in exchange for another promise to only cut 15% of our flying. And then call it a win.
Its now become clear that the Pacific LOA was a complete surrender.
All it did was make sure the pull down in the Pacific is legal under the contract.
We should have grieved the Narita slots contract violation. At least we might have got some cash.
Let's face it. ALPA doesn't want any conflict or tension whatsoever. The real reason we have that LOA is so labor risk stays "off the table" at Delta Air Lines. Same pattern with the 117 thing and the Dickson memo. That was about as "in your face", "screw the contract" as management can get. Yet still no grievance.
My fear is that DALPA is going to do the same thing with the current AF/KLM contract violation. Just to preserve Moak's precious labor peace we are going to negotiate away our production balance in exchange for another promise to only cut 15% of our flying. And then call it a win.
07-30-2014, 06:50 PM
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07-30-2014, 06:54 PM
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Carl
07-30-2014, 06:57 PM
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Yup. As our widebody fleet slowly fades away, I would expect a Chairman's Letter pretty soon on why the international codesharing and joint venture agreements are still a good thing.
Its now become clear that the Pacific LOA was a complete surrender.
All it did was make sure the pull down in the Pacific is legal under the contract.
We should have grieved the Narita slots contract violation. At least we might have got some cash.
Let's face it. ALPA doesn't want any conflict or tension whatsoever. The real reason we have that LOA is so labor risk stays "off the table" at Delta Air Lines. Same pattern with the 117 thing and the Dickson memo. That was about as "in your face", "screw the contract" as management can get. Yet still no grievance.
My fear is that DALPA is going to do the same thing with the current AF/KLM contract violation. Just to preserve Moak's precious labor peace we are going to negotiate away our production balance in exchange for another promise to only cut 15% of our flying. And then call it a win.
Its now become clear that the Pacific LOA was a complete surrender.
All it did was make sure the pull down in the Pacific is legal under the contract.
We should have grieved the Narita slots contract violation. At least we might have got some cash.
Let's face it. ALPA doesn't want any conflict or tension whatsoever. The real reason we have that LOA is so labor risk stays "off the table" at Delta Air Lines. Same pattern with the 117 thing and the Dickson memo. That was about as "in your face", "screw the contract" as management can get. Yet still no grievance.
My fear is that DALPA is going to do the same thing with the current AF/KLM contract violation. Just to preserve Moak's precious labor peace we are going to negotiate away our production balance in exchange for another promise to only cut 15% of our flying. And then call it a win.
Nu
07-30-2014, 07:00 PM
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Yup. As our widebody fleet slowly fades away, I would expect a Chairman's Letter pretty soon on why the international codesharing and joint venture agreements are still a good thing.
Its now become clear that the Pacific LOA was a complete surrender.
All it did was make sure the pull down in the Pacific is legal under the contract.
We should have grieved the Narita slots contract violation. At least we might have got some cash.
Let's face it. ALPA doesn't want any conflict or tension whatsoever. The real reason we have that LOA is so labor risk stays "off the table" at Delta Air Lines. Same pattern with the 117 thing and the Dickson memo. That was about as "in your face", "screw the contract" as management can get. Yet still no grievance.
My fear is that DALPA is going to do the same thing with the current AF/KLM contract violation. Just to preserve Moak's precious labor peace we are going to negotiate away our production balance in exchange for another promise to only cut 15% of our flying. And then call it a win.
Its now become clear that the Pacific LOA was a complete surrender.
All it did was make sure the pull down in the Pacific is legal under the contract.
We should have grieved the Narita slots contract violation. At least we might have got some cash.
Let's face it. ALPA doesn't want any conflict or tension whatsoever. The real reason we have that LOA is so labor risk stays "off the table" at Delta Air Lines. Same pattern with the 117 thing and the Dickson memo. That was about as "in your face", "screw the contract" as management can get. Yet still no grievance.
My fear is that DALPA is going to do the same thing with the current AF/KLM contract violation. Just to preserve Moak's precious labor peace we are going to negotiate away our production balance in exchange for another promise to only cut 15% of our flying. And then call it a win.
Everyone should look at the posts here from before the NRT LOA. Remember who was saying what Check now says above, and remember the DALPA-oids who were saying what great "protections" it would offer us?
Somebody said this earlier, but it bears repeating: "Hey DALPA, stop negotiating protections for us."
Carl
07-30-2014, 07:02 PM
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07-30-2014, 07:04 PM
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