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Old 07-21-2014, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Trying to make amends.....

Requesting help from moderators. Every time I reply to a post, this post from GG keeps getting attached. What am I doing wrong?

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PS, free Jesse.
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Trying to make amends.....

I think that was one of Jesse's originals.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Looks like few are taking Ferd and Denny's advice. I feel like banging my head against the wall after skimming the last few pages. Read the first couple lines "yep, same crap" next post... same thing.... same thing. OH MY GOSH.

Is this the secret to flying a 737? Eat bananas and never crap?
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
I get TSquare's point. Still, the new hires lost more than those who held on to a percentage.
Please explain. Are you saying that new hires sacrificed more than those that were furloughed because we kept our percentage?
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Old 07-21-2014, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Is this the secret to flying a 737? Eat bananas and never crap?
Dude, really, its not that hard.
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Old 07-21-2014, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorfman
Please explain. Are you saying that new hires sacrificed more than those that were furloughed because we kept our percentage?
Yes, I wanna hear that answer as well! Bar, were you going through indoc when I came back from 6 years of furlough?
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Old 07-22-2014, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Dorfman
Please explain. Are you saying that new hires sacrificed more than those that were furloughed because we kept our percentage?
Simple math; addition and compound interest.

I would not use the word "sacrifice" but if you chart out a career's earnings, as many of us did, the losses and accumulated losses are larger the earlier in one's career that total earnings were reduced.

Further, those who held a percentage obviously have more than those who did not.

Now as to how you and Buzz "feel" ... I dunno.

Certainly our new hires will have opinions about scope, but they were off property when those changes were made. In as much as they have votes, their opinions matter as much as yours or mine.

If you want to say you have a greater sense of entitlement, OK. I got no problem with your feelings, but simple math still adds up the same.
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Old 07-22-2014, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Dude, really, its not that hard.
Have you ever met Robert Reich in any of your gigs?

The 737's flight deck is like one of those houses from the middle ages; where you look at 45 inch long beds and ask; where do the feet go? Oh, well then, where does one put their head?

That thing is two gargoyles short of a gothic church.



The Mach Mach Number descent gargoyle



The Coverage Award gargoyle



The Advanced Entitlement award gargoyle

In any event, as with the gargoyles, most of us been hanging around in the same position for a long, long, time.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:56 AM
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I've been on this board for a lot of years but don't keep up with it all that consistently anymore, so maybe I missed something. But I don't see the discussions taking place the past few days/weeks to be any different than any number of discussions we've had over the past years. It appears to me that a lot of the complaints about this thread the past couple of days are really just an attempt to silence dissent.

If you guys want to turn it into strictly a rumor thread, answer a few questions, post a few pictures, exchange BBQ recipes, etc., then I guess that's fine. It'll be one less thing to occupy a slice of my time... which is probably a good thing. Think about it. I can live with whatever you guys decide.
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Old 07-22-2014, 05:02 AM
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MD88,

"Dissent" about what our MEC and pilots have already ratified is a waste of time.

There is a distinct difference between dissent and vindictiveness. The DPA's error is that it failed to find that line and stay on the correct side of it.

Not saying that is you ... but we waste a lot of time debating C2012 while our Virgin JV is being negotiated, our Trans-Atlantic JV is in peril and we prepare for C2015.

Yeah, Tim and Scrappy went off the reservation. The MEC ratified the result and the pilots voted yes. If that concerns anyone, then the correct action is to write your Reps.

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