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Old 07-16-2014, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
That depends. If you stick to your typical "influence via insult" ways and violate the TOS, then yes your post would be deleted. If you feel you can provide proof to counter the fact that C2012 did not cost less than the previous contract(added $268 million dollars Day 1 & $3 billion over 3 years) without violating the TOS, then your post can stay.

I'll wait.
$3 billion over 3 years. I assume that includes the profit sharing giveaway.

$3 billion. Show me your math.

$3 billion. Not even the most brash DALPA propagandists would have the stones to float that number.

Good luck with your credibility on the C15 campaign. Better get a new screen name. Maybe "3 Billion?" Anyway, that's my new nickname for johnso29. "3bil."

Glad to have you back.

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Old 07-16-2014, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
...C2012...added...$3 billion over 3 years...
I do not believe that is correct. It was my understanding from the roadshows that it added about $400M per year, including concessions such as profit sharing reduction, but not including any RJ savings.
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Old 07-16-2014, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Also, it's amazing how no one who subscribes to your point of view ever seems to violate the TOS.
We'll have to keep an eye on this problem. DALPA cannot stand communication that doesn't comport with their view. APC is proving to be a powerful venue that DALPA can't yet control. If they start to use moderators like johnso29 for censorship purposes, we need to let APC leadership know.

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Old 07-16-2014, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
I do not believe that is correct. It was my understanding from the roadshows that it added about $400M per year, including concessions such as profit sharing reduction, but not including any RJ savings.
Yup. It's a typo error. My rep told me $1 billion over 3 years. Which matches what the info from the road shows. Fat fingers strike again.

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Old 07-16-2014, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
$3 billion over 3 years. I assume that includes the profit sharing giveaway.


$3 billion. Show me your math.

$3 billion. Have you any concept of $3 billion.

Good luck with your credibility on the C15 campaign. Better get a new screen name.
I don't need credibility. I'm just a simple line pilot. Nice job proving me wrong though. Still waiting.
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Old 07-16-2014, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
We'll have to keep an eye on this problem. DALPA cannot stand communication that doesn't comport with their view. APC is proving to be a powerful venue that DALPA can't yet control. If they start to use moderators like johnso29 for censorship purposes, we need to let APC leadership know.

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You go ahead and do that Carl. Report away. DALPA is controlling APC now!!!!
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Old 07-16-2014, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You're the one touting that pure unproven nonsense. Post your evidence...sans the Pom Poms.

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My evidence has already been presented to the pilot group ad nauseum. Where's your proof? Let me guess. Management said it was a cost neutral contract? I guess you believe everything management says? Just like how the 737-900ER order was capacity neutral? Is mainline growing?

It's really sad how you think I actually care about your little jabs. Pom poms? Please. You and PD must be in a club together.
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Old 07-16-2014, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Fat fingers strike again.
New ALPA technique: when called out while trying to float a new bogus number, blame "fat fingers." Then demand that the other guy prove your irrational math.

Any questions, please PM 3bil.

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Old 07-16-2014, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
DALPA cannot stand communication that doesn't comport with their view.
It's been my impression that our reps have no issue with varying points of view, merely those who state varying points of truth. We can happily agree to disagree on our various opinions of a given set of facts. The trick is to first agree on what those facts are, and express our opinions in terms of those facts as opposed to some exaggerated version of the truth.

Since I joined this forum last year, I have read posts from both sides of a number of issues. Some of these posts stuck to the facts but others strayed just a bit too far from the truth to be considered credible, IMO.
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Old 07-16-2014, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
New ALPA technique: when called out while trying to stretch the bounds of credibility, blame "fat fingers."

Any questions, please PM 3Bbil.
Still waiting for your proof. Not surprising that you've been unable to provide any. Typical PD. Can't prove it, so he deflects and insults. Changing your screen name won't help at all.
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