FedElta

Wow, talk about different results.......early on we had some issues with Lido using Ballnotes for spd/alt restrictions rather than putting them on the course line, but it was an education process for us.

When we looked at EFB products, we found that the Jepp graphics and data base were lacking, and the lido was better.

Sounds like we had extremely different experiences with the product.....I'm hopeful that D will consider shipsets, and select the best product for us all.

regards.....

80ktsClamp

LIDO makes TERRIBLE paper charts. That is an EFB only product.... Jepps are far far superior in paper format.


For one- lido puts everything into scale, so you end up with many many more foldout charts and quite a few additional sheets of paper. Thus, your already overflowing chart binders would be much worse than they are now.

Then there's really no logical formating for them- no briefing strip. Just have to sniff around on the chart for the appropriate information. The color looks pretty, but really just makes it more cluttered unless youre viewing it on a screen.

80ktsClamp

Oh, I forgot one thing. The LIDO special airport pictorial charts are pictures taken from flight simulator... and not a new flight simulator program. Hills? Nah- everything is flat. It's a wonderful representation, let me tell you.

RockyBoy

Some of the guys loved them, I just wasn't smart enough to figure them out I guess. I also hope we go to shipsets and would give LIDO another shot if we used it in an EFB format, I just don't want to go down the paper LIDO road again. Basically, Jepps were developed as a paper system so it doesn't work extremely well as an EFB system unless you have a screen that displays the actual paper chart. LIDO was developed as an EFB system, so transforming that into a paper version has some issues. The ballnotes were the biggest issue. Some of the ballnotes were on the same page as the chart you were looking at, and some of them were on a completely different page. Sometimes the note corresponding to the ball did exist anywhere. There was no "briefing strip" concept and the information was not in the same place on different charts so most of the briefing time was spent cussing while trying to find what you were looking for. The only one-up paper LIDO's had on Jepp was that page that had an overview of all the arrivals on one page with corresponding frequencies. I loved that chart and that was about it.

forgot to bid

ACL or whoever knows the rumors concerning the 90s, are JALs ones we've been looking at or would consider?

65-16 = 49 to go

firstmob

I believe the ones we are presently looking at are the China Eastern birds I could be wrong.

acl65pilot

We are but we are looking at getting as many as possible.

johnso29

When RA did his first Narita base visit a friend of mine was present. RA told them over 100 world wide were available. Does that sound right?

acl65pilot

About.
They are with a lot of different airlines.

johnso29

It'll be sad to see the DC9-30/40's go, but if we get an equal or greater amount of MD-90's cheap I suppose it wouldn't hurt to fly them half full. DAL would own them, and with better fuel efficiency & no lease payments they woud seem to be a good filler until a viable, proven 100 seater shows up.