tsquare

I hope you don't expect an answer. I'm still waiting for him to take me up on my wager... which he won't ever do.

NWA320pilot

Here is the Tanksley group if you have figured out who Carl is you can answer your question......


TANKSLEY, W MICHAEL
BARNARD, GORDON C
BRUTON JR, JOSEPH D
CRANE, GARY W
CUCA, ANDREW J
DANFELT, ERIC A
FILIPAS, STEPHEN M
HALL, GEORGE M
IMUS, MICHAEL S
KLINE, ROBERT J
KOHLER, JOSEPH G
MARSHALL, ROBERT K
MOKOS, ROBERT F
PHILLIPS, RAYMOND B
RILEY, WILLIAM J
SWEENEY, DAVID J
TAYLOR, RALPH C
TOMPKINS, MARK E
WELLS, JAMES O
WERNER, RUSSELL D


A lot of these guys still work for Delta, one is now a DGS instructor on the 747!

TheManager

I am very aware of the deep loss that you experienced. In fact, I acknowledged that with condolences and offers of prayer along with many others from our community. I still wish you the best in your families healing process.

However, to frame bankruptcy in the way you did can be insensitive to some. Yes it can be viewed as a clinical and numbers exercise if done correctly in context. But to be completely condescending is another.

Bankruptcy was not insignificant to our fellow pilots family. They also suffered a deep loss which I am sure they too fell every day.

gloopy

You mean the largest recreational activity that builds basic motor skills to one day play real sports is on Sunday.

Soccer is just lame. Its for trendy suburban school children that aren't coordinated enough for baseball who'se parents are too scared to let them play football.

Justdoinmyjob

It's one thig to keep claiming that people make things up and are lying, it's another to actually prove them wrong with factual data. What proof do you have that these aren't true, other than your word?

sailingfun

Your statement is incorrect system wide. It may be correct in your category. In general it's easier to build trips with minimum credit with longer trips. This is especially true when you have cities that require 30 hour layovers.
I suspect in your category if they did away with 4 day trips and went to all 2 day trips credit would soar. There are always shorter trips that can be built without credit. Building entire categories based on shorter trips with no credit increase is not workable.
The company has always been receptive to suggested scheduling changes even when they involve some increase in credit. That is why we have the survey out now. When you have a change however you have to show the effects. When you take concepts to reality the results rarely match what pilots believe.

Carl Spackler

APA did far more than that. The NMB came in to find almost every section of the contract open. They don't do that. Their charter is to try to narrow the differences when the end game is near...not negotiate every section of the contract. Then APA was demanding 50%+ pay raises to restore them at a time when AMR was losing money and AMR's competitors were in bankruptcy. That's what APA did. I'm sure you'll agree that was a lot more than "straying outside the zone."

Regarding USAPA, being parked was precisely their strategy. If a PWA had ever been agreed to, the Nicolau SLI would have automatically been implemented.

This is why your use of these two historical events as a reason to fear the NMB is so disingenuous and damaging to Delta pilots. You're trying to get us to accept defeat before negotiations begin. You did the same thing with C2012. I just don't know why you do it.

Agreed. "barred" is too strong a word and if I implied that, I was wrong to do so.

Carl

DAL 88 Driver

I had Carl on my jumpseat a few years ago. Great guy! And NOT one of the names on that list.

Hawaii50

What was the law suit about?

NWA320pilot

Money..... Here is a good explanation http://alpawatch.org/PDF%20Newslette...30,%202007.pdf