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07-01-2014, 10:41 PM

#161661

Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank

I didn't elect a single one of the entrenched bureaucrats. Some of whom actively post here to undermine our reps' influence, some of whom are concerned only with preserving their seat on the gravy train.

"Share a career?" Sorry, I don't get to collect fpl, get wined and dined by management, enjoy an expense account, and generally mooch off the pilots' dues. The entrenched bureaucrats most certainly do not "share my career."

I was referring specifically to our elected reps. In them, I see nothing but honest, hard-working pilots who have decided to step up and defend and advance the profession and career that we share.

07-01-2014, 10:45 PM

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Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Reps are who we elect to represent us. Reps don't develop costing models and publish them. That's done by MEC administrators and ALPA national. We don't share cockpits or careers with them. So no, that's not who we're talking about here.

But our reps have full access to that data, and they agree with the conclusions being published by ALPA.

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I don't believe people. I believe data. We don't get to see that data.

My mistake then, as you seem quite willing and ready to believe management's every sound bite on the subject.

07-01-2014, 10:47 PM

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Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

When management added it all up, they described our contract as cost neutral and further stated that those cost savings would allow for funding initiatives for the benefit of other employee groups.

And they presented no data, yet you seem quite willing to believe them.

07-01-2014, 11:31 PM

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ManFlex

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Not bad, Airbus... not bad!:

Very nice. And I believe due to VX's order deferrals, Spirit will be the USA launch customer for the NEO.

07-02-2014, 01:27 AM

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forgot to bid

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Not bad, Airbus... not bad!:

I thought narrow body airliners were supposed to have engines that were flat on the bottom and pointed up? Those are big and round.

07-02-2014, 02:52 AM

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Wingnutdal

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

He absolutely said it, as did slowplay and the rest. And they were correct. Sustained corporate profits are our best leverage. Our union is just choosing not to use that leverage in deference to the strategy of being a corporate partner. That's our union's strategy. Guess we'll see how it plays out.

Carl

Prove it Carl. You always come on here and ask for proof. You put two quotes in that post, show where those exact quotes are. Show where he said that. He certainly didn't say everything is a trade off. He said our contract is riddled with them. You misquoted him. On purpose. He never said that, you made it up.

07-02-2014, 03:04 AM

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scambo1

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

I thought narrow body airliners were supposed to have engines that were flat on the bottom and pointed up? Those are big and round.

It's like that French thing shares bikini tops with a 757.

07-02-2014, 03:18 AM

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orvil

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy

You shouldn't seek contractual benefit answers on this forum, particularly as it pertains to retiree benefits. Tom has been retired a while, and his benefits are different than those who retire today.

There is no post-Medicare coverage for pilots retiring today.

Of course we should. This an open forum and everyone knows everything. No one makes a mistake. Everyone has my best interests at heart.

07-02-2014, 03:44 AM

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Pineapple Guy

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Originally Posted by orvil

Of course we should. This an open forum and everyone knows everything. No one makes a mistake. Everyone has my best interests at heart.

Good point.

07-02-2014, 04:14 AM

#161670

badflaps

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Position: retired 767(dl)

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Originally Posted by Timbo

All I want is a few PS1's for the family, for a vacation pass, so we can actually count on getting there!

I doubt I'd pay $500 to ride on passes. I hate going to the airport on my days off already, for only $50/yr.

Since the pass program is almost a non benefit at this point, eventually the company will have to come out with a replacement program, prolly discounted PS. (Or they could just pay the cash they tell you the benefit is worth.)