Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-01-2014, 06:35 AM
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What's Medicare supplement (Medigap) insurance? | Medicare.gov
Other such plans are offered by DALRC, AARP, Humana, etc.
Only the DPMP and DALRC plans get a partial subsidy from Delta, but otherwise they are all in the same ballpark IMHO.
It's true that the average person will pay more in premiums than they will collect in benefits (like all insurance works), and here's an article which says you probably don't need it:
Medicare Supplemental Policies: Do You Need One? | David Belk
07-01-2014, 06:38 AM
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See the above post.... well.. 2 above.
07-01-2014, 06:50 AM
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As Ice Cube has so eloquently put it, "check yourself before you wreck yourself."
07-01-2014, 06:50 AM
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I'm gonna regret this.
If we had a homogenous group right now. (which we don't) We could integrate a merger with AK via DOH. Because, in a group like that, the majority of them drive to work in SEA. If they are making the same money no matter what they get paid, why would they commute all the way to DTW to fly the whale? So supposing they did. I'll betcha there are a bunch of guys that presently commute to SEA to DTW to fly the whale for the $$ that would be really happy to drive to SEATAC to fly the 737. It would be a wash. But that would only work if we had a homogenous group. That horse left the barn a long time ago. I GU-AR-AN-Tee you that the most senior airplane at DAL would be the 737. Guaranteed.
Talk amongst yourselves
If we had a homogenous group right now. (which we don't) We could integrate a merger with AK via DOH. Because, in a group like that, the majority of them drive to work in SEA. If they are making the same money no matter what they get paid, why would they commute all the way to DTW to fly the whale? So supposing they did. I'll betcha there are a bunch of guys that presently commute to SEA to DTW to fly the whale for the $$ that would be really happy to drive to SEATAC to fly the 737. It would be a wash. But that would only work if we had a homogenous group. That horse left the barn a long time ago. I GU-AR-AN-Tee you that the most senior airplane at DAL would be the 737. Guaranteed.
Talk amongst yourselves
Let's say we merged with Alaska. You don't think their guys would want to fly the 330, or 767/757 out of SEA? They could still fly to work and get to see different parts of the world at the same time. Plus, they have been flying the 737 forever. They might want a change of scenery. Our guys who have been waiting to do fly the 330 or 767/757 out of SEA could be frozen out for a long time.
Plus, There is no guarantee that things would stay the same, anyway.
Let's say we merged with Jet Blue and then opened up a 757/767 base in FLL/MIA/MCO. Driving to work is a big plus, right? Well, you don't think you would have a problem when their *2007 hire A-320 captain got the bid for FLL 7ERA before you did? And oh, by the way, he's always going to be senior to you and get Christmas, weekends, and vacation before you, too.
(*Because, they are losing so many pilots and moving up so quickly, the guy/gal who might get that spot before you could be a 2011 hire 320 FO, at the moment.)
Bases and flying change when mergers occur. The only thing that stays the same is the seniority list. I'm willing to keep the pay system we have now, if it keeps scenarios like the ones above from happening. I think it does.
07-01-2014, 06:59 AM
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Their union would do what our union would do. Which is, fight tooth and nail for the best deal they could get -- and DOH isn't it if we are on longevity pay.
Let's say we merged with Alaska. You don't think their guys would want to fly the 330, or 767/757 out of SEA? They could still fly to work and get to see different parts of the world at the same time. Plus, they have been flying the 737 forever. They might want a change of scenery. Our guys who have been waiting to do fly the 330 or 767/757 out of SEA could be frozen out for a long time.
Plus, There is no guarantee that things would stay the same, anyway.
Let's say we merged with Jet Blue and then opened up a 757/767 base in FLL/MIA/MCO. Driving to work is a big plus, right? Well, you don't think you would have a problem when their *2007 hire A-320 captain got the bid for FLL 7ERA before you did? And oh, by the way, he's always going to be senior to you and get Christmas, weekends, and vacation before you, too.
(*Because, they are losing so many pilots and moving up so quickly, the guy/gal who might get that spot before you could be a 2011 hire 320 FO, at the moment.)
Bases and flying change when mergers occur. The only thing that stays the same is the seniority list. I'm willing to keep the pay system we have now, if it keeps scenarios like the ones above from happening. I think it does.
Let's say we merged with Alaska. You don't think their guys would want to fly the 330, or 767/757 out of SEA? They could still fly to work and get to see different parts of the world at the same time. Plus, they have been flying the 737 forever. They might want a change of scenery. Our guys who have been waiting to do fly the 330 or 767/757 out of SEA could be frozen out for a long time.
Plus, There is no guarantee that things would stay the same, anyway.
Let's say we merged with Jet Blue and then opened up a 757/767 base in FLL/MIA/MCO. Driving to work is a big plus, right? Well, you don't think you would have a problem when their *2007 hire A-320 captain got the bid for FLL 7ERA before you did? And oh, by the way, he's always going to be senior to you and get Christmas, weekends, and vacation before you, too.
(*Because, they are losing so many pilots and moving up so quickly, the guy/gal who might get that spot before you could be a 2011 hire 320 FO, at the moment.)
Bases and flying change when mergers occur. The only thing that stays the same is the seniority list. I'm willing to keep the pay system we have now, if it keeps scenarios like the ones above from happening. I think it does.
I still maintain that for every guy that has a woody for bigger airplanes that go around the world, there is a similar number of guys that don't. Flying turnarounds on small jets is very senior in Europe with similar pay schemes. For some of those that have been waiting to fly the 330 or 7Er, it is ONLY because of the pay. (When I was a new FO on the 7ER, I flew to SVO for almost 2 months before ever getting out of the hotel. Many of the people that I flew with ONLY did it for the $$) We can debate that until the pigs return to Capistrano.
07-01-2014, 07:09 AM
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I knew I would regret this because that was but a specific example that would have worked at a specific point in time if.. and it was a big if... our group was homogenous. (we had other mergers before NWA too...)
I still maintain that for every guy that has a woody for bigger airplanes that go around the world, there is a similar number of guys that don't. Flying turnarounds on small jets is very senior in Europe with similar pay schemes. For some of those that have been waiting to fly the 330 or 7Er, it is ONLY because of the pay. (When I was a new FO on the 7ER, I flew to SVO for almost 2 months before ever getting out of the hotel. Many of the people that I flew with ONLY did it for the $$) We can debate that until the pigs return to Capistrano.
I still maintain that for every guy that has a woody for bigger airplanes that go around the world, there is a similar number of guys that don't. Flying turnarounds on small jets is very senior in Europe with similar pay schemes. For some of those that have been waiting to fly the 330 or 7Er, it is ONLY because of the pay. (When I was a new FO on the 7ER, I flew to SVO for almost 2 months before ever getting out of the hotel. Many of the people that I flew with ONLY did it for the $$) We can debate that until the pigs return to Capistrano.
Let's not let that happen.
07-01-2014, 07:11 AM
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A couple of questions:
Question 1.) Why did the company want an expedited process in 2012?
Question 2.) Why did we agree to an expedited process in 2012?
Question 3.) Why hasn't the company shown interest in an expedited process, so far?
Question 4.) Are we pushing for an expedited process in 2015?
It doesn't seem like it.
It seems to me that when the company want's something, we get a push from the union to move forward and make it happen, because it's in our best interests. But, when we want something -- the exact same thing, 3 years later -- there is a discouraging tone of resignation that it will never happen.
Question 5.) Why is it not good for the gander this time?
Question 1.) Why did the company want an expedited process in 2012?
Question 2.) Why did we agree to an expedited process in 2012?
Question 3.) Why hasn't the company shown interest in an expedited process, so far?
Question 4.) Are we pushing for an expedited process in 2015?
It doesn't seem like it.
It seems to me that when the company want's something, we get a push from the union to move forward and make it happen, because it's in our best interests. But, when we want something -- the exact same thing, 3 years later -- there is a discouraging tone of resignation that it will never happen.
Question 5.) Why is it not good for the gander this time?
In 2015 I cannot forsee what would make the company wheel and deal. They can lock us into rates and thus lock everyone else into theirs.
My bet 4/8/3/3/0/0/0
07-01-2014, 07:12 AM
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07-01-2014, 07:42 AM
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07-01-2014, 07:43 AM
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Watch me bail ...
... 717 all the way Baby!
Delta might get more training costs as pilots bail out of craptastic for totally bonerific!
Hey! I just noted a happy Homer flies better than the new 737-900. Shorter takeoff roll, better climb and cruise too. He mostly clears the mountains with those chubby little cartoon arms.
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