Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-13-2014, 02:25 PM
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I'm with Index on this. sailingfun tried to generate some mileage based on an unsubstantiated claim that he was personally threatened by a CEO. When called on it, he punted. He even resorted to an "I won't post private emails here" straw man.
Further, george tg just slapped him silly on his "efficiency" babble.
Sailingfun, here's a little advice: stick to posting facts..."just the FACTS ma'am", from your sources.. Not your interpretation or conjecture. Don't try to do management's and DALPA's jobs of lowering our expectations. We don't need any more of that. You might even consider bolstering our efforts to be better compensated, instead of ****ing on them.
If you stick to that formula, you will regain a lot of goodwill here.
Further, george tg just slapped him silly on his "efficiency" babble.
Sailingfun, here's a little advice: stick to posting facts..."just the FACTS ma'am", from your sources.. Not your interpretation or conjecture. Don't try to do management's and DALPA's jobs of lowering our expectations. We don't need any more of that. You might even consider bolstering our efforts to be better compensated, instead of ****ing on them.
If you stick to that formula, you will regain a lot of goodwill here.
06-13-2014, 03:04 PM
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06-13-2014, 03:08 PM
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You know what, you guys are really turning me off to coming here much any more. You may not agree with Sailingfun, I can see that but questioning his integrity, I don't agree with that. Weren't most of us Officer's and all of us Gentlemen? I'm really kinda disgusted with the turn things have taken the last few days.
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06-13-2014, 03:23 PM
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You know what, you guys are really turning me off to coming here much any more. You may not agree with Sailingfun, I can see that but questioning his integrity, I don't agree with that. Weren't most of us Officer's and all of us Gentlemen? I'm really kinda disgusted with the turn things have taken the last few days.
Denny
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06-13-2014, 03:26 PM
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06-13-2014, 03:30 PM
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06-13-2014, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by United Pilot Agreement
Section 22 - Retirement
22-A Defined Contribution Plan
Except as otherwise described herein, as of the effective date of this Agreement each Pilot shall be eligible to participate in a defined contribution plan providing for a sixteen percent (16%) direct employer contribution with respect to Eligible Earnings paid under the terms of this Agreement. Each such plan shall be subject to all applicable requirements set forth in this Section 22, as well as to each plan document agreed to by the Company and the Association, which shall not be modified, amended, or terminated, except as required by law in accordance with the procedures set forth in Section 22-C-6, without the Association’s consent and which are incorporated herein by reference.
22-A Defined Contribution Plan
Except as otherwise described herein, as of the effective date of this Agreement each Pilot shall be eligible to participate in a defined contribution plan providing for a sixteen percent (16%) direct employer contribution with respect to Eligible Earnings paid under the terms of this Agreement. Each such plan shall be subject to all applicable requirements set forth in this Section 22, as well as to each plan document agreed to by the Company and the Association, which shall not be modified, amended, or terminated, except as required by law in accordance with the procedures set forth in Section 22-C-6, without the Association’s consent and which are incorporated herein by reference.
DAL patterned up on themselves C2012.
UCAL patterned up on DAL.
Originally Posted by UAL PWA 2003 Letter 03-16 (bankruptcy)
C. Pilots Directed Account Plan Modifications
The following modifications apply to the United Airlines Pilot Directed Account Plan (the "PDAP"), with respect to both the qualified and nonqualified portions of the PDAP, effective June 1, 2003:
1. Company Contribution. Effective for earnings received on or after June 1, 2003, the Company's contribution to the PDAP is reduced from 11% to 9%.
2. Participant After-Tax Contributions. The Company will resume allowing participants to make after-tax contributions to the PDAP as soon as administratively feasible.
The following modifications apply to the United Airlines Pilot Directed Account Plan (the "PDAP"), with respect to both the qualified and nonqualified portions of the PDAP, effective June 1, 2003:
1. Company Contribution. Effective for earnings received on or after June 1, 2003, the Company's contribution to the PDAP is reduced from 11% to 9%.
2. Participant After-Tax Contributions. The Company will resume allowing participants to make after-tax contributions to the PDAP as soon as administratively feasible.
Originally Posted by CAL 2005 CBA (Sect. 28-4-B)
E. Company Contributions to B-Plan.
The Company will make monthly contributions to each pilot's account under the B-Plan in an amount equal to the following percentage of the pilot's Compensation each month, as defined in Section 28, Part 4.G below.
For Compensation paid during July 2005 through June 2006 - 6.75%
For Compensation paid during July 2006 through June 2007 - 10.00%
For Compensation paid after June 2007 - 12.75%
The Company will make monthly contributions to each pilot's account under the B-Plan in an amount equal to the following percentage of the pilot's Compensation each month, as defined in Section 28, Part 4.G below.
For Compensation paid during July 2005 through June 2006 - 6.75%
For Compensation paid during July 2006 through June 2007 - 10.00%
For Compensation paid after June 2007 - 12.75%
06-13-2014, 03:33 PM
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I agree. Little bit of bully/mob mentality going on. I don't always agree with him, but he brings a more moderate opinion in some cases. This isn't the ALPA forum.
You know what, you guys are really turning me off to coming here much any more. You may not agree with Sailingfun, I can see that but questioning his integrity, I don't agree with that. Weren't most of us Officer's and all of us Gentlemen? I'm really kinda disgusted with the turn things have taken the last few days.
Denny
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06-13-2014, 03:34 PM
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You and Index are too funny to stay away too long. I can already tell that C2015, C2018, C2021 is going to be a "no vote" for you girls. (Just like your girl's ice is too cold, and coffee is too hot, nothing will be good enough and it's really too bad that life is that miserable for you tweenies.
06-13-2014, 03:35 PM
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