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06-10-2014, 10:43 PM

#159901

80ktsClamp

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Originally Posted by TheManager

So, let's say that SWA entices their pilots with a 35% raise over the term of their next contract to except PBS.

How would that effect your bottom line in regards to compensation for for out next contract.

BTW, it is rumored that FDX is also offering a similar number to secure the same acceptance for PBS there.

The FDX guys are ticked at our 3% increase... I think it's safe to say a 30% increase is not on the table.

06-11-2014, 03:53 AM

#159902

Purple Drank

Straight QOL, homie

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr

the end result has been positive.

A 42% pay cut and mind-boggling QOL hits, you consider positive?

06-11-2014, 03:56 AM

#159903

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by TheManager

Not a chance someone is going to give a 35% raise to get a 3 percent increase in productivity via PBS.

06-11-2014, 04:35 AM

#159904

CheapTrick

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Originally Posted by thefoxsays

Some have hatred towards ALPA. Mainline guys and RJ guys.

IMO ALPA needs to work on unity across all airline pilots before PAC will increase.

Scope got destroyed at mainline.... While whipsawing and race to the bottom continues at the regional level. Something to consider.

A couple of days ago I was flying with a new hire (previous ASA/XJ) on his first oe. We are in Concourse D walking when two XJ pilots come walking the other way. He says "Hi" and waves to his former peeps and they absolutely ignore him. He was one of them a month ago and now he is not. I laughed out loud. Classic.

06-11-2014, 05:20 AM

#159905

tsquare

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

The FDX guys are ticked at our 3% increase... I think it's safe to say a 30% increase is not on the table.

Ticked about what? We raise the bar, and they are ticked at US???

06-11-2014, 05:22 AM

#159906

tsquare

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lulz.... 30%... .35%.... Where are ya'll coming up with these numbers?

06-11-2014, 05:55 AM

#159907

Wilbur Wright

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheManager

So, let's say that SWA entices their pilots with a 35% raise over the term of their next contract to except PBS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Not a chance someone is going to give a 35% raise to get a 3 percent increase in productivity via PBS.

Wasn't SWA's last contract ten years? 35% over a ten year term? Sounds like their historic style.

06-11-2014, 06:20 AM

#159908

tsquare

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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright

Wasn't SWA's last contract ten years? 35% over a ten year term? Sounds like their historic style.

If we did that here, certain players would want to burn down the house. They do it there, and it is somehow viewed as brilliant. I am totally confused.

06-11-2014, 06:32 AM

#159909

Schwanker

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Originally Posted by tsquare

If we did that here, certain players would want to burn down the house. They do it there, and it is somehow viewed as brilliant. I am totally confused.

Didn't they do that while others were taking 40% cuts? I don't see SWAPA doing that in this environment.

06-11-2014, 06:37 AM

#159910

tsquare

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Originally Posted by Schwanker

Didn't they do that while others were taking 40% cuts? I don't see SWAPA doing that in this environment.

Really? Betcha a cold one they do exactly that kind of thing. SWA ain't growing like the old SWA... I'll betcha their contract negotiations drag on for quite some time, and when they DO sign one, it will be mediocre at best.