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05-23-2014, 11:03 AM
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According to the LOA, this is a new change that affects all reserves. So much for protecting the reserve QOL. 
Two hour commute window now only applies to the first day after a non-fly day. See page 24 of the LOA.
Two hour commute window now only applies to the first day after a non-fly day. See page 24 of the LOA.
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05-23-2014, 11:06 AM
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Ferd,
Min day was just that. Every day was worth XX.
We have an average daily guarantee, so on average they must equal XX.
Lets say X=5 ... with two trips which fly 8 / o / 8
Min would be 8/5/8=21
Avg would be 8/0/8=16, 16 > 15 so no credit.
Many airlines that have min days have prorated deals where a part day = part pay.
Min day was just that. Every day was worth XX.
We have an average daily guarantee, so on average they must equal XX.
Lets say X=5 ... with two trips which fly 8 / o / 8
Min would be 8/5/8=21
Avg would be 8/0/8=16, 16 > 15 so no credit.
Many airlines that have min days have prorated deals where a part day = part pay.
I'll take that, and embarrass myself with a wrong answer:
On a min day, each day has to be brought up to at least the min value, with credit if needed.
On an average daily guarantee, the entire trip has to be equal to the ADG * the number of days on the trip (minus carveouts).
Let's say MIN and ADG are both 5:15.
Let's the trip is blocked 2:15/6:15/4:15, or 12:45 total
With an ADG, you get 5:15 * 3 = 15:45 (because it's > 12:45)
With a MIN, you would get 5:15/6:15/5:15, or 16:45
Of course, keep in mind I have no idea *** I'm talking about, but I think that's how they work.
On a min day, each day has to be brought up to at least the min value, with credit if needed.
On an average daily guarantee, the entire trip has to be equal to the ADG * the number of days on the trip (minus carveouts).
Let's say MIN and ADG are both 5:15.
Let's the trip is blocked 2:15/6:15/4:15, or 12:45 total
With an ADG, you get 5:15 * 3 = 15:45 (because it's > 12:45)
With a MIN, you would get 5:15/6:15/5:15, or 16:45
Of course, keep in mind I have no idea *** I'm talking about, but I think that's how they work.
Maybe we want to push for a minimum day then? One of those "work rule raises" that Wall Street or the other employee groups wouldn't see.....
I don't care how we make the W-2 go up as long as it goes up.
Thanks guys
Ferd
05-23-2014, 11:37 AM
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05-23-2014, 11:40 AM
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NHTSB just predicted 380 deaths on our nations highways over the Memorial Day holiday. Can you imagine if a similar prediction was made for US air travel. Everyone have a safe holiday.
05-23-2014, 11:47 AM
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What's the difference?
05-23-2014, 11:49 AM
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05-23-2014, 11:50 AM
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Jinks,
I saw that but since we now have a minimum of 12 hours until we start short-call isn't that pretty much a wash? Before you could be notified to start SC in 10 hours and be expected to report at the 12 hour mark.
Now you can be notified that you are starting SC in 12 hours and can be expected to report at the 14 hour mark.
Is this how you guys are interpreting the new rules?
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05-23-2014, 11:51 AM
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Ferd,
Min day was just that. Every day was worth XX.
We have an average daily guarantee, so on average they must equal XX.
Lets say X=5 ... with two trips which fly 8 / o / 8
Min would be 8/5/8=21
Avg would be 8/0/8=16, 16 > 15 so no credit.
Many airlines that have min days have prorated deals where a part day = part pay.
Min day was just that. Every day was worth XX.
We have an average daily guarantee, so on average they must equal XX.
Lets say X=5 ... with two trips which fly 8 / o / 8
Min would be 8/5/8=21
Avg would be 8/0/8=16, 16 > 15 so no credit.
Many airlines that have min days have prorated deals where a part day = part pay.
I'm not aware of any airline, other than SWA, that has had a calendar day average such as the 5:15 we'll have by November.
05-23-2014, 11:53 AM
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I saw that but since we now have a minimum of 12 hours until we start short-call isn't that pretty much a wash? Before you could be notified to start SC in 10 hours and be expected to report at the 12 hour mark.
Now you can be notified that you are starting SC in 12 hours and can be expected to report at the 14 hour mark.
Is this how you guys are interpreting the new rules?
Now you can be notified that you are starting SC in 12 hours and can be expected to report at the 14 hour mark.
Is this how you guys are interpreting the new rules?
05-23-2014, 11:55 AM
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