RonRicco

Was there a recent resolution? I know there was one from 2010 and it was shot down.

So this is the conundrum wrt the resolution system isn't it? If the MEC blows off a resolution passed at an LEC meeting, they are not being responsive to the pilots. If they adapt it, then they should not be listening to just 15 pilots.

What should they do? (This is not a rhetorical question) poll the whole pilot group after every resolution is passed? It is not unusual for the MEC to consider 30 local resolutions at one meeting. The phone lines at our homes maybe ringing off the hook. At that point, we have just about eliminated the needs for reps at all as we are just about to the point of a direct democracy.

That being said, I have no idea how the MEC got to the point where they were considering something as controversial as CDOs without much more input from the pilot group. Many pilot sponsored issues are no brainers and great ideas, this one was not.

Either way, the pilots that are willing to stay informed were able to turn the tide. Good on ya!

pilotc90a

I love the graphic, only one problem, you have Index getting behind Tsquare. I think that is unlikely to happen.

Sink r8

That post is like a little piece of paper that got rolled into a tiny ball, and 80 and ftb are like kittens that just momentarily froze, across the room.

It's on.

Sink r8

Do you guys also try to convince your wife and kids that you're saving our union democratic process on the internet, and there was this very important LOA, and you were going to have to do these awful, awful trips, which would take you away from them, so you had to get the word out, but you love them very much? Do they buy it?

Or is it just better to say you're surfing for porn?

gzsg

Not a word about CDOs. No education. No survey results. Just an attempt to jam down from our leaders. Many thanks to our Atlanta pilots who made the calls and wrote the emails and showed the center of power the light.

We dodged a bullet, but the chamber is still full.

C2015 will be about 3 things.

Training concessions-the major thrust will be pay banding. But management will attempt to drive training to the lowest level possible and eliminate all seniority list instructors.

Reducing or eliminating profit sharing.

Reducing sick leave bank.

We have a new negotiating chairman. I hope he is as tough as we have been led to believe. Get his email address and write him and the other negotiators. Be supportive. Be positive. And make it clear concessions are not necessary when management sends billions to the shareholders and leaves their pilots a decade behind, further milking their concessions when they are no longer needed.

Don't sit on the sidelines.

Make you voice heard.

hockeypilot44

Just curious. What prevents split duty periods right now in our contract? What will prevent them after this LOA is signed?

Check Essential

12.D.1

The max duty period based on report time. (9 hours report to release)

LivingTheDream

Yes and Yes! This, after all, is the internet age. No matter how great an idea(s) 15 or so guys have at an LEC meeting, it(they) can be easily vetted by the entire pilot group via a one week poll/vote on the interweb.

There is virtually no excuse, in this day and age, for something as onerous as SDPs to be sprung on the pilot group at the nth hour. (We are very lucky that we dodged this bullet.)

Again, how this made it to the level it did, and how our chairman was able to sign an email announcing how great this TA was (that included these SDPs), is beyond unbelievable.

Is our MEC really that out of touch? (I intend to find out.)

I do not have great hope for 2015.

P.S. I still feel strongly that a TA that changes so many of our pay/work rules should be an automatic memrat.

DALMD88FO

Um the LOA puts table B of FAR 117 into effect, which has 12 hour FDP, for the time of night that the CDO's would sign in, so they could do it now without having it in the contract.

tsquare

You didn't mention the elephant in the room.. health care. Whether it be transfer of costs or some other mechanism... It will come up.