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05-17-2014, 02:44 PM
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05-17-2014, 02:49 PM
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05-17-2014, 02:56 PM
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This needs memrat. Not sure why it would be so difficult or expensive. Log in and go click click click. This is about larger politics rather than money. Fear of a no vote by membership would drive skipping memrat, and that "no" vote would probably be fairly healthy for the pilot group in the long run if it actually happened.
I just talked to one of my reps. He is going to push for memrat. You are jumping the gun by a huge margin with your comment highlighted.... You don't even KNOW whether or not it will go to memrat, but you are already loading up the carbines. Wind your watch.
05-17-2014, 02:59 PM
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The MEC wasted AT LEAST $60k of our dues money in an FPL boondoggle to defeat the DPA, and you didn't make a peep.
But spending 20-40k to let us weigh in individually on this POS is not ok?
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05-17-2014, 03:01 PM
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I am not a single issue voter either. But we need to be honest here and characterize these as concessionary. But IF... we get enough gains.. and protections to keep these God forsaken things from getting out of control, and sufficient protections from repercussions in the event of throwing the fatigue card, then I just might vote for an agreement that includes them. Sans that... nuh uh. Not interested.
05-17-2014, 03:07 PM
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For a more long winded reply, I've got no problem with membership ratification. I'll bet shiznit doesn't either.
As for the rest of it, for the sake of argument, who say's CDO's are concessionary? One mans trash is another's treasure. You could probably convince me pretty easily that this is a concession. But.......
As far as the other stuff you mention, how is it a concession to retain language that is already in our contract? Isn't a concession, by it's nature, giving up something? If we simply raise the ADG, that is not a concession but a gain. We are not giving anything up. Now if you said we needed more of a gain to get rid of the restrictions, I could agree with you.
Denny
As for the rest of it, for the sake of argument, who say's CDO's are concessionary? One mans trash is another's treasure. You could probably convince me pretty easily that this is a concession. But.......
As far as the other stuff you mention, how is it a concession to retain language that is already in our contract? Isn't a concession, by it's nature, giving up something? If we simply raise the ADG, that is not a concession but a gain. We are not giving anything up. Now if you said we needed more of a gain to get rid of the restrictions, I could agree with you.
Denny
05-17-2014, 03:12 PM
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How is starting at 10am on first day of reserve an improvement? Isn't it noon right now?
05-17-2014, 03:13 PM
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