Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-17-2014, 09:11 AM
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That would be an improvement I could support.
05-17-2014, 09:13 AM
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Is it more or less safe than a 7 hour 2-man redeye in your opinion? Do we throw out all the other gains for one highly restricted thing?
05-17-2014, 09:16 AM
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classic!
05-17-2014, 09:17 AM
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05-17-2014, 09:20 AM
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Which is horse crap! Guess we will never fix the 10:45 GUA's.....correction 10:34
05-17-2014, 09:20 AM
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Clamp,
I see the value of it. My concern is that we raise the minimum ADG to 5:15 and allow CDOs at the same time. The CDOs greatly reduce the 13:30-3 days etc.
Basically we are happy we are getting more credit but at the same time the company reduces credit trips - staying one step ahead of us, as always.
Anyhow, I am willing to keep an open mind and wait for details to be released.
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05-17-2014, 09:21 AM
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All I read is b!tching and moaning from the usual Debbie Downers before ANYONE here has seen the actual language and all the other aspects...
take a deep breath, wind your watch, and wait to see what the REAL LOA TA looks like. It might be a concessionary, it might be marginal, it might be a slam dunk win for the pilots. NONE OF YOU KNOW!
I'm all for fun speculation, but c'mon people, let's give a little bit of credence to the NC and the MEC for taking their time and not rushing to anything back in November..... This took almost 7 month's to hash out... LONGER THAN C2012 NEGOTIATIONS!!!!
I cannot be sure until I've seen it myself, but the evidence points to the fact that the MEC got the message that quality should not be sacrificed for expediency.
take a deep breath, wind your watch, and wait to see what the REAL LOA TA looks like. It might be a concessionary, it might be marginal, it might be a slam dunk win for the pilots. NONE OF YOU KNOW!
I'm all for fun speculation, but c'mon people, let's give a little bit of credence to the NC and the MEC for taking their time and not rushing to anything back in November..... This took almost 7 month's to hash out... LONGER THAN C2012 NEGOTIATIONS!!!!
I cannot be sure until I've seen it myself, but the evidence points to the fact that the MEC got the message that quality should not be sacrificed for expediency.
05-17-2014, 09:24 AM
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Good point. I think the main difference is that a redeye is preceded by a layover at a hotel whereas a CDO is preceded by a day at home. Most guys that do redeyes get some sleep during the day at the hotel in preparation for doing the redeye. Can you say the same thing for most guys spending the day at home before a CDO?
05-17-2014, 09:27 AM
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05-17-2014, 09:31 AM
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Good point. I think the main difference is that a redeye is preceded by a layover at a hotel whereas a CDO is preceded by a day at home. Most guys that do redeyes get some sleep during the day at the hotel in preparation for doing the redeye. Can you say the same thing for most guys spending the day at home before a CDO?
88,
90% of our redeyes (737 LAX) are the first leg of our trip, and we have a lot of them.
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