Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-17-2014, 08:18 AM
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"Stand ups" have always been a way to get around the FAR rest requirements. Nobody sleeps during the day and then stays up all night during a stand up. The reality of it is that the flight is done late at night with a crew that has been up all day and is nearing the point where they should call it a day and go to bed. And then the flight the next morning is done by that same crew after they got maybe 5 hours of sleep. It's unsafe. They should have fixed this loophole in FAR 117. If DALPA allows this to be added to our contract, there's no way they can tout a motto like "schedule with safety" with a straight face.
05-17-2014, 08:27 AM
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"SCHEDULE WITH SAFETY"*
* except for stand-ups. Because 10 hours of rest should be an absolute minimum, unless it shouldn't be, because some guys want to be "productive."
* except for stand-ups. Because 10 hours of rest should be an absolute minimum, unless it shouldn't be, because some guys want to be "productive."
05-17-2014, 08:42 AM
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CDOs? How about this: Turn it down and let the company see what it's like to feel the pilots' exercising their rights under the PWA.
05-17-2014, 09:00 AM
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Word is the CDOs are going to be for premium pay.
There's also some new language offering even more pay if the pilot is willing to be flexible regarding the hotel. Big bonus if you're open to doing your lean-over
There's also some new language offering even more pay if the pilot is willing to be flexible regarding the hotel. Big bonus if you're open to doing your lean-over
05-17-2014, 09:04 AM
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Denny
05-17-2014, 09:04 AM
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What you guys are missing here regarding CDO's ETC.. is that we are rapidly approaching the type of work rules that the regionals have. We cannot allow this to happen. It's time to wake up and say NO!!
05-17-2014, 09:04 AM
Straight QOL, homie
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05-17-2014, 09:05 AM
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I guess I didn't realize that safety was negotiable.
05-17-2014, 09:10 AM
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Email already sent to my reps. (For all the good that's going to do.
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05-17-2014, 09:10 AM
Da Hudge
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Around 30% of domestic trips pay less than 5:15 a day. No more 13:30 3-day trips and no more 18 and change 4-day trips come with that. And for the first time in generations or perhaps ever you have reserves paid the same as lineholders for trips.
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