Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Just spit-balling here, but maybe you get continuous duty if your following day was scheduled to start 8:15/9:00 after your actual in time plus 30. No expert, just a thought.
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If the company would not have been negotiating in good faith etc, I would agree with you, but there was risk for both sides in the grievance process. SD's letter was way off base, but there is quite a bit of contradictory language wrt reserve and obligations. Certainly if it appeared things were not going our way, we would not have had any leverage at that point. The threat of a grievance and the implications that go with that action, may have carried more weight than filling Jan 1.
I have my doubts that I am going to like this TA, but I have no problem trying to negotiate a solution first. You feel differently and that is fine as well.
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It could be inferred from your statement that you have such information. Otherwise, why would you make such a statement?
If you are a rep, it would be inappropriate prior to the release of the agreement to be making statements regarding the content of the agreement. If you are not a rep, why would you have this information and why are you talking about it?
I attended one of the PUB events a few months ago. The reps I talked to said that the time for giving back to the Company was over. I would like to believe their statements. But then, what do I know? I'm just a line swine.
On a greenslip, or after and before a long layover, or for the efficiency seeking pilot; these 8+ hr flying (Domestic) can be enticing. I, for one, think they are very draining and could be a potential issue in the future.
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Kind of hard to believe this when they are putting PDs on lines now. Yeah, nothing nefarious going on here.
So it's okay for you to leak characterizations but no specifics? Without details your "info" is mere propaganda.
Are you a rep? Where are you getting your info from?
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In fact I wish that a reserve GS had a different coding in the daily trip coverage than a regular line holding GS. They really are two different animals.
I'm a gut with two PD's due to acknowledging trips contractually and not SD ually. My rep today told me the loa is a plus for us. He gave no specifics. I trust him and hope they are right.
Reading comprehension doesn't appear to be one of your strengths. I didn't say they couldn't file in NYC, I stated where they WOULD file based on their past history. You should read up on venue.
It's funny how in one post you can chastise me in one post for posting a conclusory opinion, but yet you have no problem doing the exact same thing in your response.
Consistency doesn't appear to be one of your strengths.
Thanks for you attempted lesson on venue. Where did you learn it?
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On the other hand, I wish there were a way to ban these over 8 hour domestic days. I am beat. The efficiency might be good, but it makes for a real tiring day especially following a short layover, no crew meals and quick turn. I, for one, will never ever bid for this type trip again
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One other thing I think would decrease safety is CDO, stand ups, high speeds etc. I bring this up because my gut says we gave this away. Guys don't get the rest needed before doing these type of trips, whether they like them or not. "Some guys like them" is the response I received when talking to my reps about it = most likely done deal. We shall see but my experience with them is usually unsafe. You count on rest that you may or may not get. People who choose to fly them want to maximize their time (side business, other obligations etc.) show up already tired from a days work counting on at least 6 hrs behind the door that may not happen. When it doesn't happen, it is usually due to wx, mtc, creating more fatigue. In this situation you are legal but a walking zombie.
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