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05-15-2014, 06:53 AM
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05-15-2014, 06:57 AM
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The guy who bids below me had 195 preferences, that has to be a record. All that work and he gets a reserve line.
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05-15-2014, 07:03 AM
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Hey guys looking at PBS my first preference built me a line with 64:45 of credit but it ignored my carry In credit of 4:45 for June 2nd.
Since the 64:45 is below the min of 65:35 it went to my next bid preference and it gave me reserve.
Does PBS ignore carry in credit or did PBS make a mistake?
Since the 64:45 is below the min of 65:35 it went to my next bid preference and it gave me reserve.
Does PBS ignore carry in credit or did PBS make a mistake?
You should be able to look at the Reasons report to get a better understanding of what happened as the bid was running. It will show a running total, starting with any pre-award/carry-in credit.
If you want, PM me your sen # and I'll take a look at your bid...
05-15-2014, 07:14 AM
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As a junior guy, changes to the reserve system was what I was concerned about. That really was what the 117 negotiation were about. I also hope it makes the PD guys whole, and some sort of language that prevents future attempts at changing our contract by royal fiat.
Door pay, across the board raises and all of that other stuff, would be a pleasant surprise, but I am not expecting that.
What made me so curious about the whole thing was the WAY the conversation went. He was really happy go lucky when he was handing out swag and talking about unity. The 177 "announcement" slipped out, and you could tell he wanted to take those words back right away. every time I asked for details, he lowered his voice and got evasive.
If 16 hour long call is all we could manage, how did it take this long?
Door pay, across the board raises and all of that other stuff, would be a pleasant surprise, but I am not expecting that.
What made me so curious about the whole thing was the WAY the conversation went. He was really happy go lucky when he was handing out swag and talking about unity. The 177 "announcement" slipped out, and you could tell he wanted to take those words back right away. every time I asked for details, he lowered his voice and got evasive.
If 16 hour long call is all we could manage, how did it take this long?
I've asked around for details from various people over the past few days and EVERYONE has been pretty tight-lipped. It is not appropriate for a committee member, or even a sitting rep, to volunteer specifics of a deal before the MEC has had a chance to consider a potential TA. If you and I witnessed the same conversation, then that was how I took it. More of an "I'm not at liberty to say" than any sort of cover-up.
Fwiw, I haven't been able to glean any more details than you have. The only thing leaking out is whether or not to send it to memrat - which despite my type-A personality, I'd rather not see happen. That and that the deal is mostly done, but still needs some final legalese polishing. There will be a special MEC meeting held, in open session I'm told, to receive the deal and decide what to do with it.
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05-15-2014, 07:23 AM
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PBS will use your C/I credit to build you up to the threshold for your category. If it couldn't get there, it will give you RSV.
You should be able to look at the Reasons report to get a better understanding of what happened as the bid was running. It will show a running total, starting with any pre-award/carry-in credit.
If you want, PM me your sen # and I'll take a look at your bid...
You should be able to look at the Reasons report to get a better understanding of what happened as the bid was running. It will show a running total, starting with any pre-award/carry-in credit.
If you want, PM me your sen # and I'll take a look at your bid...
PBS counts all pre-month credit including carry-in credit.
05-15-2014, 07:24 AM
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Incorrect. If PBS can build you a line ANYWHERE in the window you will get a line, it only gives you reserve if you ask for it or there isn't a combination of open time trips that can make a legal line. It wants to get to the threshhold but it is not a requirement.
PBS counts all pre-month credit including carry-in credit.
PBS counts all pre-month credit including carry-in credit.
05-15-2014, 08:26 AM
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T, what other parts of our contract would you accept a memo from SD changing? What if one day mgmt decided they didn't like having 2capts and 2 FO's on over 12 hr flights. SD puts out a memo saying July 1 all ultra long haul will be 1 capt. and 3 FO's. We have a contract and they MUST abide by that until we have a LOA. These pilots should be guaranteed whole by our union for abiding by the contract and whatever happens in arbitration shared amongest us, good or bad. We either show solidarity or get picked apart section by section that mgmt doesn't like.
Your strike question is idiotic, but not surprising coming from you.
If you want to take the same amount that they were out from the MCF to be paid back when they are made whole by the company, I have no problem with that. If they lose the grievance however... how do you rectify that? They have to pay back the money upon the grievance decision?
If you want to take the same amount that they were out from the MCF to be paid back when they are made whole by the company, I have no problem with that. If they lose the grievance however... how do you rectify that? They have to pay back the money upon the grievance decision?
05-15-2014, 08:28 AM
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If you use an APD before your DOH but in the same month, do you get the next years APD day after your anniversary date.
05-15-2014, 08:39 AM
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05-15-2014, 08:53 AM
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The pilot should not be characterized as a risk taker or rebel. The pilot is following the rules. The company is not.
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