Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-06-2014, 09:32 PM
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05-07-2014, 02:29 AM
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Just a side story about Clinton and the brave
American dudes.
I picketed at DFW during the NWA strike (along with lots of Delta bubbas) and American guys. One day, as we were taking a break from the walk of the living dead, the APA Chairman told us that they actually asked President Clinton to put them back to work. Something about killing the golden goose. Not a conspiracy theory, I heard the dude say it. Kinda crappy thing to tell guys actively on strike.
The politics get crazy during a strike. I forget the name of the administrations hit man, but he promised a $hit sandwich to both us and NWA management if we didn't settle.
So, will any president let us strike......it's a moot point, honest. Doesn't matter which party.
Ferd
American dudes.I picketed at DFW during the NWA strike (along with lots of Delta bubbas) and American guys. One day, as we were taking a break from the walk of the living dead, the APA Chairman told us that they actually asked President Clinton to put them back to work. Something about killing the golden goose. Not a conspiracy theory, I heard the dude say it. Kinda crappy thing to tell guys actively on strike.
The politics get crazy during a strike. I forget the name of the administrations hit man, but he promised a $hit sandwich to both us and NWA management if we didn't settle.
So, will any president let us strike......it's a moot point, honest. Doesn't matter which party.
Ferd
Different animal than having a guy promise the nation (and management), that you won't be able to strike.
In terms of leverage with revenue, one version has headlines that say you struck, but prez is delaying the inevitable, the other version has "Prez Intervenes, no Strike". One version would let people book tickets with a degree of confidence, the other wouldn't.
Still, I agree with you guys that this isn't a black-or-white proposition (no pun intended).
05-07-2014, 02:45 AM
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Today's thought of the day...if you can't carry your own bag up a flight of stairs its probably time to hang up the FA career.
05-07-2014, 03:16 AM
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It says a Rep was not going to the game and there was an open ticket that nobody was going to use. Shame not to have anyone miss a Red Socks game. Nothing planned, no big deal.
05-07-2014, 03:36 AM
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Disclaimer.... I in no way think we are compensated as much as we should be, just that I could see this being used against when things aren't as rosy.
05-07-2014, 04:09 AM
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I'm pretty sure they have done this about once or twice a decade for the last 40 years or so.
This is not an argument that I would use to justify how much we are compensated. If you want the NMB to buy off on the argument during the good times, you can bet when airline profits are down, the opposite will be used "the pilots just aren't generating the numbers for the company."
Disclaimer.... I in no way think we are compensated as much as we should be, just that I could see this being used against when things aren't as rosy.
Disclaimer.... I in no way think we are compensated as much as we should be, just that I could see this being used against when things aren't as rosy.
05-07-2014, 04:28 AM
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Can you pick up a GS on an APD day?
05-07-2014, 04:39 AM
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All PD wants is to draw blood. He doesn't care if it is fruitful or not. His posts are QED of that desire.
05-07-2014, 04:40 AM
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This is not an argument that I would use to justify how much we are compensated. If you want the NMB to buy off on the argument during the good times, you can bet when airline profits are down, the opposite will be used "the pilots just aren't generating the numbers for the company."
Disclaimer.... I in no way think we are compensated as much as we should be, just that I could see this being used against when things aren't as rosy.
Disclaimer.... I in no way think we are compensated as much as we should be, just that I could see this being used against when things aren't as rosy.
That's the way its always been Ron.
Management has been using the "bad times" argument against us ever since C2K. They used the threat of bankruptcy to get Letter 46 and then actual bankruptcy to slash our pay and benefits roughly in half.
Turnabout is fair play. They are making enormous profits right now. A big chunk of those profits are directly attributable to them no longer having to fund Delta pilot pensions. We need to see some of that money now that we've brought this company back from the brink with our huge sacrifices.
No other employee group has put in so much and don't even get me started on the executives. From the bonuses to the bankruptcy-proof SERP pensions, those guys have MADE MONEY through all the "hard times".
Its time to pay the pilots.
ps-
I hope Donatelli bought RA a beer at Fenway. And then I hope he warned him what was coming if the pilots don't get to share in this torrent of cash we are generating for his company.
05-07-2014, 04:40 AM
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