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Old 04-25-2014, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
No, it's that I took a 30% pay cut from C12K, and it would be nice to know that that money went to other pilots wouldn't it? Instead, DALPA gave it to the company, that is a legitimate *****, is it not?

ummmmmm what?
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Not to mention you have to pay GA state tax.
There's a 765 bid with your name on it.
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
There's a 765 bid with your name on it.
Looking, might due something radical like the A330. It has the best trip mix now. Just hate the thought of the school. Not to mention I found a summary of all the bizarre ways bus pilots have gotten themselves in trouble. I am afraid I could invent new and even more spectacular methods.
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Great news for the North and South folks, but.......................... All quiet on the Western Front. Hey guys what about LAX/SEA/SLC/MSP??


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I know what you mean. Stagnant with a capital S out here. Maybe they just forgot about us?
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
ummmmmm what?
I presume he's referring to the Pinchanickle bankruptcy. It would have happened without C12K, mind you, but having the additional 76-seaters to place at Pinnacle (plus the SSP sweetener) was what allowed DAL to get their regional "cost reset" without the 9E pilots just burning the place down. I argued at the time that the 9E BK was the actual "fleeting opportunity" behind C12k. But it's a stretch for a 9E guy to blame the paycuts on C12k. They were already BK and if C12k hadn't passed, DAL likely would have done a controlled shutdown to retire 50-seaters unilaterally.
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Looking, might due something radical like the A330. It has the best trip mix now. Just hate the thought of the school. Not to mention I found a summary of all the bizarre ways bus pilots have gotten themselves in trouble. I am afraid I could invent new and even more spectacular methods.
In my unbiased opinion you'd look much better in a 765. Four day differences school vs a month of French lessons. My suggestion has zero to do with the fact that you're senior to me.
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Not to mention I found a summary of all the bizarre ways bus pilots have gotten themselves in trouble. I am afraid I could invent new and even more spectacular methods.
Unlike Boeing pilots, who have this automation thing totally dialed!



Not a knock on Boeing, mind you. *Any* modern plane can get you if you're not completely familiar with the automation, comfortable without it, and ready to turn it off when it does something unexpected.
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Most guys I fly with are surprised with how much MORE they had to fly in 2013 vs 2012.
Seriously? Most guys you fly with were forced to fly more in 2013 than in 2012? Really?
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
I know what you mean. Stagnant with a capital S out here. Maybe they just forgot about us?
That's why the west is called "Hotel California" From the East Coast-You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
So they get a higher guarantee to be in the schoolhouse, now they should get more benefits "just because"?

You wanna instruct: the working conditions are what they are, apply or don't. I don't care, they'll find, train, and qualify people willing to do the job. Special treatment for one small fleet of instructors is a non-starter.

I have to commute on standby and pay for my own crashpad because I CHOOSE to live where I want and work where I have bid my position. They're no different in that regard, IMHO.
Guess we will have to agree to disagree..... I have experienced the difference in quality of instruction between someone who has experience on the plane verses experience flying the box. Just saying.
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