Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Anyone use the iPhone APC app tell me how to get to the end of this thread quickly?
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I had a PanAm engineer, previous National. He had to do an engine change at an outlying station. He trashed his uniform shirt doing it. He asked National for a replacement shirt. Management told him that he should have worn overalls. They refused the reimbursement.
By the time he was done it was one incredibly expensive shirt. It never ceases to amaze me how stupid managers can be.
By the time he was done it was one incredibly expensive shirt. It never ceases to amaze me how stupid managers can be.
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I took it to mean the crew had to turn the engine assisting the mechanics who were actually changing the engine. I have a few shirts myself that bear "the mark of the engineer" ie. grease stains.
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Once you upgrade...another 5 minutes of two-engine taxi or 10 minutes of early APU start on every flight for the remainder of your career should put a dent in their $4000.
You might not have the money...but neither will they.
You might not have the money...but neither will they.
I know/think/hope/pray you have a greater amount of integrity than what you just posted. I assume you've been drinking some mixed-$h1t (Johnnie Walker) instead of the REAL Single Malt juice like Macallan. If you haven't already, try the "Godfather" cocktail.
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(Not the smartest way I'll give you...)
Reserve question.....Next week I have CQ with Monday travel day,Tuesday sim, Wednesday LOE (I'll be able to get home Wednesday evening) Thursday travel day and Friday first day of reserve (5 days). Is Thursday a day off or a work day and when am I required to check my schedule?
Exactly. You haven't heard a word about it from your union. The word on the street is that dalpa and the company have agreed that no grievance will be filed as long as they are still talking. Can anyone confirm that?
Sailing is hedging his position. Notice that he said "around May 1st."
I've asked sailing before about his source regarding his assertion that dalpa will file an MEC group grievance at the expiration of 120 days. So far, he's refused to answer the question. So how about it sailing, what's your source?
Sailing is hedging his position. Notice that he said "around May 1st."
I've asked sailing before about his source regarding his assertion that dalpa will file an MEC group grievance at the expiration of 120 days. So far, he's refused to answer the question. So how about it sailing, what's your source?
This is correct and it happens when the two sides are engaged in resolving an issue. As an example, if someone got bypassed for a GS and they brought it to the attention of the Scheduling Committee within the 120 days, the Scheduling Committee would confirm that the pilot is the one who should have received the GS and they would then add them to the list to engage the company for resolution. The 120 day limit for filing a grievance would be tolled until the Scheduling Committee had received a "no, we're not paying it" from the company, at which point it would be handed off to the Contract Administration Committee for action.
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FWIW, Flight Engineers were not originally "pilots" by any definition. Some had A&P's with IA, but no commercial or ATP ratings. They were mechanics who rode along managing the incredibly complex engines, as well as repairing and fixing them at outstations. Three engine ferry flights were more common than engine swaps on the ramp, but sometimes there was no choice.
My father was one of these A&P, IA's who's first job was to manage these complex turbo-supercharged radial engines, then later taking DC-8's into Asia and Africa to land on steel matting and stuff like that. There was no support infrastructure where many of these cargo operators went.
http://www.seaboardairlines.org/spar.../as_efs415.jpg
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http://www.seaboardairlines.org/spar.../as_efs412.jpg
(second picture note, SO not my father, in his underwear or bathing trunks, on left, changing an engine ... do not report to style police ... apparently socks matching underwear must have been a thing in the 1960's)
I think even Delta had a very small handful as late as the 1990's. ASA negotiated a "Bid Restricted Second Officer SLOA" to offer assistance to Delta "pilot" PFE's who needed training and flight time to meet Delta's minimums for a control seat.
FWIW, my father is a very good pilot. He's an absolutely mind blowing mechanic.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 04-20-2014 at 03:05 AM.
Flying from ATL to Orlando just isn't the same as doing that kind of stuff.
At my previous cargo airline, the FEs didn't do much maintenance, as we carried a ride-on mechanic (who did get greasy and didn't get to hotels much - I writeup I once saw was "Mechanic Needs a shower") but the FEs did inspect the repairs on occasion whenn a second pair of eyes was required.
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